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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Aren't you going to give us a post number at least. That thread is like 40 pages long, and I don't remember you posting any links in that thread.
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Ask nicely and you shall receive...

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    Chris, here's my response to all of that ...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1061952480


    To which I can now add that the first statistics about underage prostitution concentrated only on street kids, not the industry as a whole.
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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    I will put it simpler - two consenting and sane individuals should be allowed to do ANYTHING they want to each other.

    Hypothetically, if they want to slowly eat one another until they both die - assuming they are both sane and they both freely consent - then Bon appetit.


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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Giving up your eyes for money is immoral. Selling your body for money is immoral.
    That is in your opinion. Also it is their choice. You want to take away a choice just because you believe it to be immoral. Which is in itself immoral. In fact I consider it a bigger immorality than what you claim those other two are as you are imposing your beliefs on another. Would you do and argue the same for religion/atheism?
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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Evidence?
    Shouldn't need evidence for common sense. Do you think that a child in an abusive home is going to be prone to psychological trauma? Or a woman being abused by her husband? Why would a john beating up a prostitute be any different? Because it's "sex"? Or is there some sort of psychological trauma that only comes from sex that I don't know about? *well...other than the trama men/women get when they go a long time with out it after having had it all the time that is.*
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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Where on earth have you met these prostitutes? On the street? Everybody has issues with street prostitution. Most women who choose the life, become escorts. They aren't mistreated. They are well paid actresses.

    This one is 43 (or more since they do lie).
    Here's her rates
    1 hour $450
    2 hours $700
    3 hours $1000

    Here's her page Welcome to my virtual world

    You think people push her around? Not a chance! I lived with an escort for 2 years and her customers were quite meek and well behaved.

    I'm just baffled what is immoral about this. If the customer is married - he's the immoral one. If the customer, like me, isn't married, all thats happening is free trade, the essence of capitalism.
    There is a difference between prostitution and escorts. hence the reason that the two are seperated by two completely different words. Prostitution usually happens in the streets or a brothel. Escorts happen in neither.
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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Actually it is illegal to sell your organs or anyone else's living or dead, consent or not. The only country where it is legal to buy and sell organs (trade) is Iran.
    Link? I've never heard of such a law when it comes to an adult of sound mind consenting to it.
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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You made a lot of claims there, can you back them up with studies?
    Well, there's only one that rises above the level of "mundanely obvious," barely. So I guess you mean that not all prostitutes are diseased?

    Here's one that compares American to American (prostitution being legal in NV), which I think is the most helpful. STD rates in legal prostitutes in NV are dramatically lower than elsewhere in the US. In fact, they're dramatically lower than porn stars as well.

    L.A. porn stars have more STDs than Nevada prostitutes - latimes.com

    I'm actually not really sure what else I am supposed to prove.

    You can read thousands of stories from prostitutes who enjoy their work on The Google. Obviously, it's hard to enjoy your work if you're an unwilling slave.

    People do pay money for all those things. Do I need to find a practitioner for you?

    Sending people to jail does not help them become financially stable, or personally empowered. This is... insanely obvious. And we can see that it hasn't worked, because prostitution is still common in places where it's illegal.

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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Consenting sex between two married people is biblically beautiful and so righteous that even god himself gets all teary-eyed over the prospect, yet remove the "married" part and all of a sudden consenting sex is dangerous, harmful, immoral, and SHOULD be illegal????????


    The attempt at some kind of apples-to-apples analogy in the OP is pretty lame.

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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Link? I've never heard of such a law when it comes to an adult of sound mind consenting to it.
    I could give you a link easy enough but seriously are you really serious? lol Where would you legally buy a kidney in the US?

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    Re: Moral question (don't click if you're squeamish)...

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I don't think we should jail the women, I think we should jail the men.
    I do not, there are far too many people in US jails to begin with. Throwing people who force women into prostitution is OK, throwing men who smuggle girls or who drug women to keep them working as prostitutes if fine too.

    Throwing johns into jail for picking up girls by the side of the road is fine too, but call girls and brothels should be allowed to operate as long as they work with clean prostitutes who are not addicted to drugs and who are free of diseases.
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