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Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

Should traditional gender and marriage roles be taught in school?


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And you think THAT qualifies as "teaching" gender roles?

Honestly, I don't remember ever making a connection with any one of my teachers or observing them or even liking them for that matter. I really wasn't the best student and did a LOT of daydreaming in school. I don't know what other people's childhoods and time in school was like, but that was it was for me. If I was taking "social cues" from anyone it was mostly my friends. I was always very sociable and close with my group of friends.

Well, it does. If you want more explicit examples that I can attest which affected me, I was taught a great many things through statements or expectations that were reinforced. I won't give those out unless you want though. Teaching doesn't always mean lining pupils up in desks and lecturing. Much of the learning we do occurs out of the that structure of learning we have in our schools.

You may or may not have picked up any of the meanings. What I am saying is that it is quite difficult to escape being taught gender roles in the schools.
 
Well, it does. I was taught a great many things through statements or expectations that were reinforced, if you want more explicit examples that I can attest which affected me. Teaching doesn't always mean lining pupils up in desks and lecturing. Much of the learning we do occurs out of the that structure of learning we have in our schools.

You may or may not have picked up any of the meanings. What I am saying is that it is quite difficult to escape being taught gender roles in the schools.

I think I learned VERY LITTLE socially from my teachers. Sorry buddy. Like I said, if anyone had a big social influence on me, that would have been my family and friends.
 
I'll take that as a "no."

Meh. Believe what you want. There is considerably more evidence to support social learning theory than the theory that you know anything about this topic.
 
Nope, if you'd go back and read (may be harder for you), you'd see that I stated the woman could just as easily change a tire and sawyer didn't like that so he decided to change the topic to breast-feeding.

Women can't change tires. They can get a spare out and stand there looking at in until some man stops and changes it for her though.:lol:
 
Women can't change tires. They can get a spare out and stand there looking at in until some man stops and changes it for her though.:lol:

I've changed PLENTY of tires Sawyer. My dad made sure he taught me how to do those basic things so I would never be stuck in the rain waiting, like any good dad would.
 
Only if they are taught from a non-patriarchal, what-they-really-are point of view, and not a patriarchal, you-must-be-this-way point of view.
 
Women can't change tires. They can get a spare out and stand there looking at in until some man stops and changes it for her though.:lol:

Might wanna tell her that. :shrug:

 
I think I learned VERY LITTLE socially from my teachers. Sorry buddy. Like I said, if anyone had a big social influence on me, that would have been my family and friends.


Like I said, you may or may not have been taught or had learned from instructors about gender roles. That's not the point of contention with your previous statement. Those who had learned were supposedly dorks, which implied either a lack of familiarity with how easy societal norms are taught to its inhabitants, or at the very least, a criticism of those that had been taught.
 
No, no and no.

(grin!)
Hence your signature line.
I referred earlier to taking a photo of a year and saying that society should stay that way. Is that what you're doing?
 
Nope, if you'd go back and read (may be harder for you), you'd see that I stated the woman could just as easily change a tire and sawyer didn't like that so he decided to change the topic to breast-feeding.

He wasn't trying to shift the attention to breast feeding with this comment.

Maybe when you were growing up mom got out and changed the tire while dad sat in the car with a baby sucking his tit but I was raised different.

You just ran with it to talk of breastfeeding for really no reason.
 
Women can't change tires. They can get a spare out and stand there looking at in until some man stops and changes it for her though.:lol:

Dude, who the hell cares who changes the tire? If she wants to go out in the rain and change the tire, more power to her. All that means is that I get to sit in the car. :D
 
Like I said, you may or may not have been taught or had learned from instructors about gender roles. That's not the point of contention with your previous statement. Those who had learned were supposedly dorks, which implied either a lack of familiarity with how easy societal norms are taught to its inhabitants, or at the very least, a criticism of those that had been taught.

You are wasting your time and energy. Some things just go over people's heads and you have to let it go.
 
He wasn't trying to shift the attention to breast feeding with this comment.
You just ran with it to talk of breastfeeding for really no reason.

He obviously was. In no way is breast-feeding related to changing a tire.
 
Like changing a tire is difficult. It may be laborious, but it's no Rubik's frickin cube.
 
You are wasting your time and energy. Some things just go over people's heads and you have to let it go.

Well, I won't be brash before I think it's necessary, unlike someone's quick dismissal.
 
Like I said, you may or may not have been taught or had learned from instructors about gender roles. That's not the point of contention with your previous statement. Those who had learned were supposedly dorks, which implied either a lack of familiarity with how easy societal norms are taught to its inhabitants, or at the very least, a criticism of those that had been taught.

Yeah, well you haven't SEEN or SMELLED some of the teachers that I had. :shock: Let me tell you, you wouldn't want to be taking any social cues from them, that's for sure.
 
It is about roles. If you and your wife or GF get a flat in the rain and you let her change it while you sit in the car with the heater on you are not a man.

Eh..changing a tire sucks. If she wants the jobs that suck, I don't care. What am I supposed to do here? Stand for the power to change a tire? No thanks, I'm not starting a fight over changing a tire.
 
Yeah, well you haven't SEEN or SMELLED some of the teachers that I had. :shock: Let me tell you, you wouldn't want to be taking any social cues from them, that's for sure.

That reminds of a teacher I had in eighth grade that always had BO and I swear half the time smelled like piss.
 
Depends on what you mean.

Teaching kids not to be teen parents? Okay.

Teaching girls that they should only focus on being a house wife? No.
 
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