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Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

Should traditional gender and marriage roles be taught in school?


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Gender roles don't change from one generation to the next. When you get a flat tire in the pouring rain dad fixes it not mom.

Ha, have I got some stuff for you to read.
 
Considering the fact that the nuclear family is in demise and all the crap that goes along with that, yes absolutely.

Public schools teach so much useless garbage anyway, they might as well be useful and produce something for the culture they're meant to service.
 
Dude, you are human. You most certainly, absolutely, positively learned social and cultural behaviors from teachers. If you ever said the pledge of allegiance, were told to share, were talked to about treating others with respect, etc. you were taught such behaviors. When you interacted with boys and girls, you refined your understanding of gender roles. The way that teachers talked to you and treated you also probably reinforced your understanding of gender roles. That is how ALL people learn.

No, I don't think so. If so, then very little. I learned mostly through my friends and family. I rarely talked to my teachers about anything outside of school-related things. There were only like 2 teachers that I ever liked, so maybe they had some effect, but the others, no way.
 
No, it's true. When it is not part of the lesson plan, but related to it, or perhaps from an off-the-cuff remark, you'll get a chunk of ideas from an instructor, gender included. They do influence, however slightly.

On a slightly unrelated note, I actually took social cues from my instructor. It was a sociology course. You know all of those unwritten rules that most people get and abide by, but never say them? Well, glimpses of those showed up in that course, taken for granted, before going on to the course content itself. I actually learned a lot about the rules you people follow on a regular basis as a result.

Explain to me how my teacher taught me gender roles.
 
... or Mom knows how to use a jack and can change the tire. It's not like there's some secret knowledge for men.

Maybe when you were growing up mom got out and changed the tire while dad sat in the car with a baby sucking his tit but I was raised different.
 
Only dorks take social cues from their teachers. :lol: You must have been a big-time dork.

Sigh...your clear lack of education and terrible understanding of what learning is and how it occurs is making this discussion painful.

Social learning theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm done. If you want to continue talking about things you have no knowledge about outside of your narrow, uninformed point of view, then feel free to do it with someone else.
 
Schools need to stay OUT of students private lives. Stick to educating them. Nothing more.
 
Gender roles are best learned from experience in society. What your parents learned will probably be, uh, inoperative when your kids are grown up.

I made sure I married a lady who valued gender roles like I do and we enjoy teaching them to our kids. Even as kids, I've taught my boys that they're to protect their sister, open the doors for her and carry things. Chores are also based on traditional gender roles.
 
Maybe when you were growing up mom got out and changed the tire while dad sat in the car with a baby sucking his tit but I was raised different.

Well, completely ignoring your useless anecdotal story, who says the Mom MUST be breast-feeding?
 
Sigh...your clear lack of education and terrible understanding of what learning is and how it occurs is making this discussion painful.

Social learning theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm done. If you want to continue talking about things you have no knowledge about outside of your narrow, uninformed point of view, then feel free to do it with someone else.

Nice psychobabble from Wiki. By the way, do you know what the word "theory" means? :lamo
 
Explain to me how my teacher taught me gender roles.

Well, it's a multifaceted demand, so I'm going to forget many good examples.

If you hear any casual remark about boys needing blue, girls in pink....boys do the handiwork, boys will be boys, boys are rough, girls are smarter, any remarks about male occupations, female occupations. What a man does as a gentleman, what a woman does as a lady. There can also be differences in how an instructor reacts to a situation if it is a boy or a girl student, like "toughen up" to the boys, and a bit more reassuring with the girls, perhaps protective.

It might not be as memorable as a specific lesson plan and course objectives, but that's the quality of social expectations...less noticed than expected.
 
Gender roles don't change from one generation to the next. When you get a flat tire in the pouring rain dad fixes it not mom.

Gender roles have obviously changed over the three generations I cited. Don't you think so? Doesn't your daughter have a different set of expectations from your mother? And also, don't you think it's a good thing that your daughter has a different set of expectations?
 
Gender roles have obviously changed over the three generations I cited. Don't you think so? Doesn't your daughter have a different set of expectations from your mother? And also, don't you think it's a good thing that your daughter has a different set of expectations?

No, no and no.
 
Well, it's a multifaceted demand, so I'm going to forget many good examples.

If you hear any casual remark about boys needing blue, girls in pink....boys do the handiwork, boys will be boys, boys are rough, girls are smarter, any remarks about male occupations, female occupations. What a man does as a gentleman, what a woman does as a lady. There can also be differences in how an instructor reacts to a situation if it is a boy or a girl student, like "toughen up" to the boys, and a bit more reassuring with the girls, perhaps protective.

It might not be as memorable as a specific lesson plan and course objectives, but that's the quality of social expectations...less noticed than expected.

And you think THAT qualifies as "teaching" gender roles?

Honestly, I don't remember ever making a connection with any one of my teachers or observing them or even liking them for that matter. I really wasn't the best student and did a LOT of daydreaming in school. I don't know what other people's childhoods and time in school was like, but that was it was for me. If I was taking "social cues" from anyone it was mostly my friends. I was always very sociable and close with my group of friends.
 
Well, men can lactate, too. Anyway, why are you saying the woman must be breast-feeding in this scenario? Do they not make fake breast-feeding machines?

1. Good for bonding
2. Saves money
3. helps lose weight.
4. Provides the child with anti-bodies.
5. Boosts the babies intelligence.
6. Helps prevent allergies.
7. Reduces the risk of breast cancer.
8. Reduces the mothers stress level
9. Protects against Obesity
10. Lowers blood pressure

Is that enough reasons?

Are you really going to suggest that men should be breast feeding? :lamo
 
1. Good for bonding
2. Saves money
3. Helps Lose weight.
4. Provides the child with anti-bodies.
5. Boosts the babies intelligence.
6. Helps prevent allergies.
7. Reduces the risk of breast cancer.
8. Reduces the mothers stress level
9. Protects against Obesity
10. Lowers blood pressure

Is that enough reasons?

Are you really going to suggest that men should be breast feeding? :lamo

Nope, if you'd go back and read (may be harder for you), you'd see that I stated the woman could just as easily change a tire and sawyer didn't like that so he decided to change the topic to breast-feeding.
 
I made sure I married a lady who valued gender roles like I do and we enjoy teaching them to our kids. Even as kids, I've taught my boys that they're to protect their sister, open the doors for her and carry things. Chores are also based on traditional gender roles.

All laudable. Did you teach your daughter to be subservient to men and that the purpose of her life was to make a good marriage and keep her husband happy?
Doesn't matter whether you did or not. She'll decide.
 
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