View Poll Results: Should traditional gender and marriage roles be taught in school?

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Demonizing "unwanted" obligations is a slippery slope, one that has led irresponsibility so extreme that it is affecting every aspect of our society, from the way government functions to the economy.

    A moral person should not only want hard obligations (rejecting all help, even from those who love and support them), they should be reluctant to accept the benefits that came along with taking on those obligations.

    The fact they don't is why our nation is in decline. People are so self-absorbed and focused on their own pain the fact that they applied for the "free ride" of tax benefits without producing the desired results (two high functioning individuals producing social resources and children who will produce more resources when they grow up) is something that doesn't even occur to them to think about while filing their divorce.
    I did no such "demonizing unwanted obligations" in my post. I simply replied with a sarcastic retort that earlier marriages were held together more simply because if the wife leaves, she has to find someone else to make the money, if the husband leaves, he has to find someone to perform household duties.
    Either I'm right or you're wrong.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    No. Leave that sort of stuff to the parents. Let the kids be who they want to be.
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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    I voted "yes" mostly because it seems that the option is for a school to try to teach against them. Where the school is forced into the option, there's nothing wrong with letting Susie play hopscotcch while Timmie plays football.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    I voted no because I don't believe it is the school's place to handle that issue. The role of the school is to educate, not help a child settle into gender roles.

    I believe it is primarily the parent's responsibility to guide and nurture their own children. As the children grow they wil discover on their own whether or not such internal conflicts occur, and parents should be open enough to deal with this issue in a nurturing way. If the fail to handle it properly I am sure the children will get support from other social sources (peers, counselors, etc.).

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    It isn't the business of schools to tell children what they're allowed to be when they grow up. It's only their business to give them the basic tools they require to find out for themselves. Children already deal with enough labeling, boxing, and repression of personality, skills, and critical thinking from the adults in their life. The last thing they need is to have all of that enshrined in law.

    I also find these kinds of "family" GOP'ers kind of strange. They practically foam at the mouth when someone proposes, say, a sex-ed class that simply mentions that homosexuality exists. They say schools "shouldn't be teaching morality" (apparently acknowledging the existence of gays advocates some kind of morality).

    But then they turn around and propose that schools ACTUALLY DO advocate morality, via an elaborate childhood-long manipulation curriculum.

    Apparently it's schools "overstepping their bounds" when it's merely suggesting the existence of things they don't like, and "what's important" when it comes to forcing and shoving children into their repressive idea of what an acceptable "boy" or "girl" is.
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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    How about we let kids grow up how they/ their parents want them to. The government should not a have a role in deciding what morals a kid has. Enroll the kid in a private school or something if you're worried about "bad influences" in public schools.
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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    That would be too costly and extensive. It would interfere with classes and subjects that are actually important.
    I don't see why it couldn't be incorporated into a history course. Besides, in high school (at least the one I went to), we had a few compulsory subjects but the rest were optional - meaning we could choose which courses to take, not that we could choose to not take any.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrabaholic View Post
    I don't see why it couldn't be incorporated into a history course. Besides, in high school (at least the one I went to), we had a few compulsory subjects but the rest were optional - meaning we could choose which courses to take, not that we could choose to not take any.
    I think it's become a bit more of a phenomenon with high schools that are trying to become more "collegiate" in the sense that star athletes can load up on all the underwater basket-weaving classes they want.

    I went to school when there were very few electives, and all could be considered to have positive value in the world. I spent mine to take 4 years of Spanish (would be even more useful if I was from this area) and a couple computer classes. Never was I offered a choice to take something so irrelevant as some sort of PC-based cultural studies.

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