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Thread: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, that is what the thread is about, teaching "traditional" gender roles and "marriage" roles in school. See thread title.
    See, I see the reminder, but I should also remind you that I answered both the original query from the OP and your post about dorks and being influenced by instructors.


    An example of what you mean by "gender assumptions" and how an instructor would include that in his or her daily lessons would be nice. I'm really not sure if you mean inadvertent influence.
    I mean both inadvertent customs the instructor is following as well as verbal statements provided off-the-cuff that may provide an assumption about the genders.

    With social skills or whatnot, those would largely be included in the lesson plans, if not as a result of classroom management.
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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    See, I see the reminder, but I should also remind you that I answered both the original query from the OP and your post about dorks and being influenced by instructors.
    I was being sarcastic. But I think if someone was influenced by some of MY teachers, they would probably be dorks. I had some dorky teachers.




    I mean both inadvertent customs the instructor is following as well as verbal statements provided off-the-cuff that may provide an assumption about the genders.

    With social skills or whatnot, those would largely be included in the lesson plans, if not as a result of classroom management.
    Social skills, such as disciplining students to let them know they are behaving inappropriately and other such things are perfectly acceptable, as are inadvertent things the teacher might do. Of course, I've been referring to the OP in my posts, instructing children on gender identity and other similar things.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Public schools should limit their instruction to academics, which many are failing to do as it is.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Public schools should limit their instruction to academics, which many are failing to do as it is.
    Exactly!!!


    Jeez - can parents get any more derelict in their parental responsibilities?


    I swear more and more people are treating their kids like pets that they REALLY love - rather then as children that they are responsible for.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    So social engineering (State sponsored, naturally) is acceptable after all - when it advances conservative causes. Who'd'a thunkit?

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    I don't think it really matters. The gender roles are so ingrained that the kids teach each other from a young age. One of my profs said she did not push any gender typing onto her son. Well then he went off to school and by age 5, was being ridiculed by the other kids for playing with a doll or something. That sure turned around that behavior quickly. So it matters just as much what other parents in the area are signalling to their own kids.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'll bet this woman could change 10 tires in the time it would take you to change just one.

    Oh bite me.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So, the question would be do you think we should teach a class similar to what Gingrey is suggesting, promoting traditional gender roles and marriage roles?
    I don't know if it necessarily has to be taught in schools but I think promoting traditional gender roles is a good thing.

    I imagine the children of parents who decided to push the political envelop at their children's expense are going to need a lot of therapy in the coming years.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    I don't know if it necessarily has to be taught in schools but I think promoting traditional gender roles is a good thing.

    I imagine the children of parents who decided to push the political envelop at their children's expense are going to need a lot of therapy in the coming years.
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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    What exactly is immoral about egalitarianism and equality of opportunity?
    Looking at how dysfunctional nuclear families have become, it is that they gave people greater freedom without teaching them how to use it responsibly.

    Two people sharing their lives together can accomplish exponentially more (economically, socially, spiritually, etc) than most people can going it alone, but only if they develop an effective power-sharing scheme to keep the relationship stable.

    In the laws and cultural norms of elder days, power-sharing schemes were dictated by the world around you, assigned, among other ways, in the form of gender roles -- that is, learned behaviors that were ingrained into people based on differences of sex. It was harder for a spouse to step on another's toes during a marriage when there was less overlap in their obligations, thus less compulsion to separate.

    When large doses of egalitarianism changed that and gave people (especially women) more personal control over the nature of their relationships, it happened with an absence of knowledge of how to develop a power-sharing scheme.

    Consequently, half of marriages end in divorce and the rest limp through it.

    Which, among other problems, makes the tax benefits and incentives that apply to married couples a bit of a waste.
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