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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    GOP lawmaker: Teach grade-school classes on traditional gender roles - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room



    So, the question would be do you think we should teach a class similar to what Gingrey is suggesting, promoting traditional gender roles and marriage roles?
    I love traditional values. I'm going to teach my son to respect women, not knock them up and then ask them to exercise their right to "Choose".

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Yes. Traditional roles should be the only roles explained.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I really think that teachers should have boundaries when it comes to their students. They are NOT their students mommies and daddies, nor should they behave as if they are. They are paid to do a specific job, and that is to teach children things like reading, writing, arithmetic, etc. NOT gender roles, not anything about sex (unless it is in the sex ed curriculum), and other such things.

    Even MOST children who come from one-parent households usually have at least one other family member that would be their role model or whatever you want to call it. This whole concept is just completely ridiculous if you ask me.
    Yes, but not really. There is a huge division between teacher and parent, but it becomes more gray in certain aspects, because teachers aren't simply put into one small box. They are expected to be role models too, which includes guidance, but to a limited extent, because there's school counselors that take the brunt of the school's responsibility for that.
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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Yes, but not really. There is a huge division between teacher and parent, but it becomes more gray in certain aspects, because teachers aren't simply put into one small box. They are expected to be role models too, which includes guidance, but to a limited extent, because there's school counselors that take the brunt of the school's responsibility for that.
    Sure, maybe they are a role model for SOME kids, but most kids have at least someone at home, even in single-parent homes, whether that be an older sibling, a grandparent, an uncle, a cousin, or a whole slew of others. I would think teachers probably play the smallest role as a "role model" in most children's lives truthfully.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Sure, maybe they are a role model for SOME kids, but most kids have at least someone at home, even in single-parent homes, whether that be an older sibling, a grandparent, an uncle, a cousin, or a whole slew of others. I would think teachers probably play the smallest role as a "role model" in most children's lives truthfully.
    What they are accepted as by an individual student is somewhat beside the point. The societal and professional expectation for an instructor goes far above and beyond clocking in and clocking out, and teaching one (or many) academic subject matters.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    What they are accepted as by an individual student is somewhat beside the point. The societal and professional expectation for an instructor goes far above and beyond clocking in and clocking out, and teaching one (or many) academic subject matters.
    I disagree. I think there need to be boundaries, and pretty strict ones at that. If a teacher suspects there might be abuse or neglect, they should call Social Services. That is the only other expectation I would have from a teacher besides teaching.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    "Traditional roles" was what era? What year? 1990? 1970? 1950? 1920? 1890? 1790? 1660? Medieval times? The Dark Ages?

    What culture? What religion? Etc. Etc.

    In short, "teaching children traditional gender and marriage roles" is just another religious rightwing social agenda slogan and nothing more.

    What schools need to teach children are education matters - ie education - not how they should and shouldn't live their lives. It wouldn't work anyway.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I disagree. I think there need to be boundaries, and pretty strict ones at that. If a teacher suspects there might be abuse or neglect, they should call Social Services. That is the only other expectation I would have from a teacher besides teaching.
    I did just say that there are enormous boundaries between a parent and a teacher. Half of my childhood was spent with my parents and other advocates reminding my instructors and administrators on that point. I did, however, also state that an important part of the job description is to be a role model and a limited guiding force for any and all students. It is not limited to academic subject matter.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I did just say that there are enormous boundaries between a parent and a teacher. Half of my childhood was spent with my parents and other advocates reminding my instructors and administrators on that point. I did, however, also state that an important part of the job description is to be a role model and a limited guiding force for any and all students. It is not limited to academic subject matter.
    Well what do you suggest that include then? I have to say that I can't remember any one of my teachers doing anything other than teaching school-related lessons. If by role model, you mean to have a clean record or other such things, then yeah I agree with that. But as far as teachers "teaching" gender roles and other such things, no way. That's crossing a line IMO.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well what do you suggest that include then? I have to say that I can't remember any one of my teachers doing anything other than teaching school-related lessons. If by role model, you mean to have a clean record or other such things, then yeah I agree with that. But as far as teachers "teaching" gender roles and other such things, no way. That's crossing a line IMO.
    Well, teaching appropriate behavior, social etiquette, and so forth. Yes, this also involves having a clean record, as if we are to be role models, it is assumed that we ought to at least fairly decently hold up to the standard. In the past, "traditional gender roles" were mixed in with the social etiquette and lesson planning. Once it became improper to implant those specific roles to the sexes, the sort that remained was social. A change in gender roles is still taught by being gender-neutral or meritocracy for both sexes. That's a gender role right there.

    We aren't supposed to push ideas forward that seriously challenge the status-quo of acceptability by society or practice, but we do push forward ideas that are outside the scope of academic subject.
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    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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