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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Can we take out "change a tire" and replace it with "shoot a gun"?
    sure, let's equate these two ... but let me get this straight ... you're for women not changing tires, but you are in favor of women learning how to shoot and packing a gun ... Is that right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Thanks much!

    It's really not that difficult or physically taxing to change a tire. A lot of kids could do it too, I'm sure.

    it's not ... I think the poster just didn't think it was very feminine, unlike shooting someone ...

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    sure, let's equate these two ... but let me get this straight ... you're for women not changing tires, but you are in favor of women learning how to shoot and packing a gun ... Is that right?
    I never said I was against women changing tires. I think it's very smart to know how to change a tire. I just choose not to do it myself.

    You said it's important for the woman's safety to know how to change a tire. Don't you think it's just as important (even more, really) for a woman's safety to know how to defend herself against someone who might want to harm her? Women shouldn't be fragile or helpless, right?


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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    sure, let's equate these two ... but let me get this straight ... you're for women not changing tires, but you are in favor of women learning how to shoot and packing a gun ... Is that right?
    How about both? Women should learn how to change tires and how protect themselves in the most effective way that they feel comfortable with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    How about both? Women should learn how to change tires and how protect themselves in the most effective way that they feel comfortable with.
    now that makes more sense, but the poster clarified her point ...

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I never said I was against women changing tires. I think it's very smart to know how to change a tire. I just choose not to do it myself.

    You said it's important for the woman's safety to know how to change a tire. Don't you think it's just as important (even more, really) for a woman's safety to know how to defend herself against someone who might want to harm her? Women shouldn't be fragile or helpless, right?
    thanks for clarifying ... btw, a lot guys prefer not to change their tires either, which is why God created AAA ...

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I never said I was against women changing tires. I think it's very smart to know how to change a tire. I just choose not to do it myself.

    You said it's important for the woman's safety to know how to change a tire. Don't you think it's just as important (even more, really) for a woman's safety to know how to defend herself against someone who might want to harm her? Women shouldn't be fragile or helpless, right?
    when you advise your friends to get a gun, tell them to consider this ... (an excerpt from Guns In Your Home: A Statistical Accident Waiting To Happen CBS Chicago)

    Statistics versus emotions

    When stories hit the press about people victoriously defending themselves with firearms, gun sales go up. Emotion and the desire to protect your own are pretty powerful motivations. However, statistics about gun-related deaths should not be ignored. Multiple groups, like the American Academy of Pediatrics, urge Americans not to keep guns in their homes because of overwhelming evidence that homes with guns are more likely to also be homes with suicides, murders and gun-related accidents. Bad guys do get stopped with guns, but statistically, in a country where more than one third of households contain a working firearm, far more individuals, especially children, are accidentally shot. In addition to the number of children wounded or killed by firearms, women also disproportionately find themselves at the wrong end of a gun in their own homes, with a current or former romantic partner typically pulling the trigger.

    According to a report filed by the Washington State Department of Social Health Services, a child or teen is killed once every seven and a half hours with a gun, either by accident or by suicide. In 72 percent of these cases, the firearm used was housed in the victim’s own residence. Many of these weapons were locked away in a secure place, yet 48 percent of those who own guns do not equip them with child safety and trigger locks.


    Hidden guns may be found and used by children often, yet in a third of homes where firearms are present, that type of hide-and-seek discovery is not necessary. A full 30 percent of gun owners keep their weapons at the ready in an unlocked, loaded state. Ironically, in order for a home to be protected against an intruder, guns need to be easily and quickly accessible and it is this very accessibility which makes firearms in the home so deadly.

    Gun safety basics

    Whether you have guns in your home or not, it is imperative you teach your children what to do if they come across a firearm accidentally. The standard safety steps children should follow are:

    Stop what you’re doing.
    Do not touch the gun.
    Leave the area.
    Let a grownup know right away.
    It is also important that children be told it is not their responsibility to protect someone who has a gun or to hide this knowledge from their parent or guardian. If you yourself have a gun you no longer wish to keep, you may be able to sell it to an authorized dealer or have it melted down. You can also turn your firearms in to the local authorities, along with any ammunition. If you are in possession of an illegal firearm, there are a number of no-questions-asked gun buy-back programs available in most states. Most importantly, don’t simply throw an unwanted gun away or stow it in an attic or basement where it can be stolen or stumbled upon, years later.

    Corey Whelan is a freelance writer in New York. Her work can be found at Examiner.com.
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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Actually I can't think of many friends and family of mine who don't already have a gun in their home. I also think it's very important to teach gun safety to children. And by "gun safety" I don't mean "Run away from it, Billy! It's a GUN!!! Scary!!!!" I mean..... learning how to hold one, shoot one, etc.


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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Hopefully some man will see her changing the tire in the rain as you sit in the car and pull over and help her. Then hopefully she will get in his car and drive away with him leaving you to wonder why she left.


    I'm just saying there is things that don't matter and who changes the tire is indeed one of those things. Hell, the vast majority of things fall under that umbrella that take place. I would sooner just do it than even bother caring who does what and when it gets done.

    I just don't get why you care so much about changing the tire? It's a job that needs to be done and you're there, so do it. Really though, who cares who changes the tire? Yes, I agree a man should change the tire and even stop and help a woman that is on the side of the road, but I don't see why this is big thing for you. It's not like it really matters.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    I really think that teachers should have boundaries when it comes to their students. They are NOT their students mommies and daddies, nor should they behave as if they are. They are paid to do a specific job, and that is to teach children things like reading, writing, arithmetic, etc. NOT gender roles, not anything about sex (unless it is in the sex ed curriculum), and other such things.

    Even MOST children who come from one-parent households usually have at least one other family member that would be their role model or whatever you want to call it. This whole concept is just completely ridiculous if you ask me.

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