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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That reminds of a teacher I had in eighth grade that always had BO and I swear half the time smelled like piss.
    That's why I'm like, what? Take social cues and gender role cues from my teachers? LOL! I don't THINK so. I'd be one smelly, unkempt, socially inept individual.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    I was taught how to change a tire once. However, I don't want to change my own tire. I just call some nice man to come fix it for me.

    Same goes with mowing the yard, changing the oil in my car.... you know.... the manly jobs.


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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Well, it's a multifaceted demand, so I'm going to forget many good examples.

    If you hear any casual remark about boys needing blue, girls in pink....boys do the handiwork, boys will be boys, boys are rough, girls are smarter, any remarks about male occupations, female occupations. What a man does as a gentleman, what a woman does as a lady. There can also be differences in how an instructor reacts to a situation if it is a boy or a girl student, like "toughen up" to the boys, and a bit more reassuring with the girls, perhaps protective.

    It might not be as memorable as a specific lesson plan and course objectives, but that's the quality of social expectations...less noticed than expected.
    I can't really argue against with much of what you are saying. It's unfortunate that a lot of kids are limited by what they believe about themselves.

    While every point of socialization (schools, churches, friends, family, etc) can and does teach gender roles...it always has. A parent can help kids understand what the hell these "expectations are"...or aren't. And that's not to say that some parents teach girls that there are girl things to learn and do....and boy things to learn and do. They usually will define many of those things as they display their lives in their usual role modelling experiences. But in the end...parents can help kids understand that gender roles exist, what they mean and how social expectations can affect their lives.

    Yeah...I know, that's not the normal conversation parents have with kids....but like sex, a lot of parents don't talk about it. But parents need to talk about. Gender role confusions....or expectations can mess a kid up.

    There are really valid reasons people need to think hard and long about the types of values, beliefs, etc that they expect other people to teach their kids.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Eh..changing a tire sucks. If she wants the jobs that suck, I don't care. What am I supposed to do here? Stand for the power to change a tire? No thanks, I'm not starting a fight over changing a tire.

    Hopefully some man will see her changing the tire in the rain as you sit in the car and pull over and help her. Then hopefully she will get in his car and drive away with him leaving you to wonder why she left.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That reminds of a teacher I had in eighth grade that always had BO and I swear half the time smelled like piss.
    I had one who I don't think EVER brushed his teeth and would drink coffee, and his breath was SO bad that when he came to my desk to talk to me, I would literally put my hand over my nose. Ewww, that brings back some not so pleasant smelly memories.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Sure we can teach kids about traditional gender roles. They're important in a cultural and historical context. But by no means should we teach kids that they are somehow superior or default behavior.
    Liberté. Égalité. Fraternité.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I was taught how to change a tire once. However, I don't want to change my own tire. I just call some nice man to come fix it for me.

    Same goes with mowing the yard, changing the oil in my car.... you know.... the manly jobs.
    It's good exercise though Josie!

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It's good exercise though Josie!
    I prefer other ways of getting my calorie burn.


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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Hopefully some man will see her changing the tire in the rain as you sit in the car and pull over and help her. Then hopefully she will get in his car and drive away with him leaving you to wonder why she left.
    probably because the guy didn't change the tire correctly and she couldn't drive the dam car, so he gave her a lift to her house to make up for it.

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    Re: Teach Children Tradition Gender Roles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It's good exercise though Josie!
    I had a neighbor lady once that mowed in a bikini. Whenever she mowed all the men decided to mow too.

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