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    Would you support a Constitutional Amendment for privacy?

    Would you support a Constitutional Amendment for privacy?

    If you could write it, how would it read and what would it cover?
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Would you support a Constitutional Amendment for privacy?

    How would your proposed amendment differ from the 4th?
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Would you support a Constitutional Amendment for privacy?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Would you support a Constitutional Amendment for privacy?

    If you could write it, how would it read and what would it cover?

    I belieave that the government has no business spying on the people IE their employers. So yes I would support a Constitutional amendment for privacy.It would also make it apply to businesses as well, because big brother is wrong regardless if its government businesses doing it. It would ban the government and business from watching people(with exception to employees only at the work place and customers only at the place of business ), collecting data on people, data-mining.It would also ban tracking people and or their property.THis would also ban the government and companies from contracting with other governments and businesses outside the US to spy on the people. The penalties for anyone trying to undermine this would be 10-20 years in prison.
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    Re: Would you support a Constitutional Amendment for privacy?

    "Privacy" is a massively broad topic. I'd need to know exactly what the OP means.

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    Re: Would you support a Constitutional Amendment for privacy?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    How would your proposed amendment differ from the 4th?
    The 4th amendment is not about privacy.It is about searches of individuals,their personal effects,documents and other property. It says nothing about the government watching you.


    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Would you support a Constitutional Amendment for privacy?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The 4th amendment is not about privacy.It is about searches of individuals,their personal effects and other property. It says nothing about the government watching you.
    The 4th Amendment covers some aspects of privacy, but not all.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    "Privacy" is a massively broad topic. I'd need to know exactly what the OP means.
    That's why I included the question for how you (general 'you') would write it, because it is broad and as such could mean something entirely different from one person to the next.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Would you support a Constitutional Amendment for privacy?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Would you support a Constitutional Amendment for privacy?

    If you could write it, how would it read and what would it cover?
    A warrant is required for the state to keep data on or engage in the surveillance of any person and must notify said person of the scope of the invasion of their privacy within 30 days after the surveillance has concluded and destroy all data.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Would you support a Constitutional Amendment for privacy?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The 4th amendment is not about privacy.It is about searches of individuals,their personal effects,documents and other property. It says nothing about the government watching you.


    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized
    If no gov't action now results from the "watching" then what would be prevented? No more motor vehicle/firearms records? No more automatic reporting of income for taxation? No more auditing of tax returns? No more traffic cameras? At what point does "watching" or automatic review of data become an invasion of privacy - so long as no gov't action is taken?
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Would you support a Constitutional Amendment for privacy?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Would you support a Constitutional Amendment for privacy?

    If you could write it, how would it read and what would it cover?
    Yes I support the 4th amendment.

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    Re: Would you support a Constitutional Amendment for privacy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yes I support the 4th amendment.
    It would be more than just what the 4th Amendment protects. The 4th amendment addresses unreasonable government searches and seizures. I would like to see an amendment that limits what potential employers can require their potential employees to provide. For instance, I think that requiring employees to give their social networking (facebook) login info and passwords is an invasion of privacy and morally wrong, and I'd like to see people protected from that. I also think that drug testing for jobs that do not require use of heavy/dangerous machinery is an invasion of privacy and immoral. Another example is asking the question "Have you ever been charged with a crime?" It should be totally illegal to require employees to answer that. Asking if they've been CONVICTED is fine, but the fact that you could be mistakenly charged, later found innocent, but still discriminated against simply because of the charge is BEYOND ridiculous.

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