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  • Yes, I am a Liberal and would support it

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Thread: Would you support something like the following bipartisan health insurance plan

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    Re: Would you support something like the following bipartisan health insurance plan

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Government insurance isn't any different from private insurance. Just because Medicare doesn't cover something, doesn't mean you can't get the procedure done. It's just about whether you could afford it on your own.

    Most people can't afford life-saving procedures, so no matter for whom the bureaucrat works, the bureaucrat still makes life or death decisions.
    Considering the government subsidizes a number of hospitals, you don't think they could exercise control over who gets what done?

    Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want, but I believe they could and will.

    Cash prices for services vary greatly from insurance prices, been through it. And most hospitals will work with a person when something must happen. After all, we supposedly have a couple of million people who were uninsured for quite a few years, and they still manage to get treatment.
    Building block or stumbling block.... choose.

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    Re: Would you support something like the following bipartisan health insurance plan

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    1. Bureaucracy is the government's middle name. If one can be created, the bureaucratic boondoggle would be astounding.
    2. Eliminating the health insurers will add how many people to the unemployment lines?
    3. Define catastrophic. For some, catastrophic illness IS the flu. Others, the severing of limbs may or may not be.
    4. Ongoing conditions such as diabetes, heart issues, even cholesterol can require ongoing prescriptions that could bankrupt a person.
    5. Low income groups or disable people that can't afford even the most basic insurance premiums would, again, be subsidized by those able to afford premiums.
    6. Government control of healthcare brings up that demon, 'death panels'. Does anyone really want a bureaucrat deciding if they deserve a heart transplant?
    7. HIPPA? What's HIPPA?

    And the list could go on and on.
    In regards to #2, having inefficient bubbles in the workforce is long term very negative. To see it, think of an agrarian society in the past. It took everyone, 100% employment, to just feed everyone. Then someone has an idea to invent machinery that when successfully commercialized only 1% of the workforce is needed to produce food. These 99% would be out of a job, should then the commercialization of the machinery be blocked? What it actually does is free up the labor to increase additional national wealth. Some of those ex-farmers will build brick houses so many of the people no longer have to live in huts. Others open clothing factories, etc, etc. The same with ex-private health insurance employees. They will have their labor capital re-directed from something inefficient to something that creates real wealth. In the long term everyone wins. This greater economic growth by freeing up inefficient labor capital increase government revenue, lowers debt, increases living standards across the board. You can take this principle throughout government. If technology and world class managerial policies can allow a government bureaucracy to do their job just as well or better with a reduction of say 60% in costs and reduction in employees, it benefits society long term. There needs to be a very wise job training and welfare program that quickly re-directs this capital labor to more efficient areas where it is needed. The problem is we do not have this type of job education and welfare program, and we have politicians who will not be willing to risk their jobs short term by implementing such an efficiency program. So we keep putting it off until all of these bubbles with all of the debt keep building towards economic disaster..
    Last edited by laska; 06-18-13 at 11:12 PM.

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