View Poll Results: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

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Thread: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    The Thanks given became a holiday in the 1800 hundreds every state was celebrating it by 1863 . 30 years after the trail of tears took place .
    Do you have anything that actually connects the two together besides timeline?

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    How exactly are the offensive? And if any holiday in the nation should be recognized it is the 4th of July....It's kind of an important day to the Nation.
    Because no matter how hijacked our country becomes, it hasn't been hijacked enough until they've taken away the celebration of the founding of our nation. At that point we might as well burn the constitution and come up with a new name for the country, because its certainly not the USA anymore.

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Do you have anything that actually connects the two together besides timeline?
    I don't know perhaps the fact that is when the most natives had died and since America had celebrated it first thanks given holiday to thank the natives for their help in their own destruction I thought as said before would be like salt in the wounds . Thanks for helping us take your land . You must at least find that ironic .

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    I don't know perhaps the fact that is when the most natives had died and since America had celebrated it first thanks given holiday to thank the natives for their help in their own destruction I thought as said before would be like salt in the wounds . Thanks for helping us take your land . You must at least find that ironic .
    It's called a primary source, and I see that you do not have one.

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    It's called a primary source, and I see that you do not have one.
    Do you mean a website to prove it Origin of Thanksgiving Day,Thanksgiving Day Origin Pumpkin and Thanksgiving Feast
    Pumpkin pie, a modern staple adorning every dinner table, is unlikely to have been a part of the first thanksgiving feast. Pilgrims however, did have boiled pumpkin. Diminishing supply of flour led to the absence of any kind of bread.

    The feast continued for three days and was eaten outside due to lack of space. It was not repeated till 1623, which again witnessed a severe drought. Governor Bradford proclaimed another day of thanksgiving in the year 1676. October of 1777 witnessed a time when all the 13 colonies joined in a communal celebration. It also marked the victory over the British.

    After a number of events and changes, President Lincoln proclaimed last Thursday in November of thanksgiving in the year 1863. This was due to the continuous efforts of Sarah Josepha Hale, a magazine editor. She wrote a number of articles for the cause.

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    Do you mean a website to prove it Origin of Thanksgiving Day,Thanksgiving Day Origin Pumpkin and Thanksgiving Feast
    Pumpkin pie, a modern staple adorning every dinner table, is unlikely to have been a part of the first thanksgiving feast. Pilgrims however, did have boiled pumpkin. Diminishing supply of flour led to the absence of any kind of bread.

    The feast continued for three days and was eaten outside due to lack of space. It was not repeated till 1623, which again witnessed a severe drought. Governor Bradford proclaimed another day of thanksgiving in the year 1676. October of 1777 witnessed a time when all the 13 colonies joined in a communal celebration. It also marked the victory over the British.

    After a number of events and changes, President Lincoln proclaimed last Thursday in November of thanksgiving in the year 1863. This was due to the continuous efforts of Sarah Josepha Hale, a magazine editor. She wrote a number of articles for the cause.
    No, you still don't have a primary source that says that the national holiday of Thanksgiving has anything to do with the Trail of Tears.

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    No, you still don't have a primary source that says that the national holiday of Thanksgiving has anything to do with the Trail of Tears.
    I said it was Ironic that it was 30 years after the trail of tears . so that Gotta go could not say that the holiday was made before the atrocities when in fact it was made after , haven't you read the things I was quoting first before you posted ? ( I understand people like the jump the gun sometimes )

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Should the United States do away with Thanksgiving and the 4th of July as designated public holidays in favor of something more inline with changing demographics?

    I chalk up most of my nephews political views to being college age but over a weekend BBQ they seemed pretty adamant that some of our public (federally recognized) holidays were insensitive to minorities in this country. They seemed to view Thanksgiving and July 4th as particularly offensive.
    I don't believe that they should be "canceled." I can understand why both holidays might be considered a problem in terms of their history, but I think most Americans of all races and ethnicities have come to include both days into their traditions in spite of the country's history.

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    The only holiday we should eliminate is Christmas, because it privileges a particular religion. It can be replaced by the winter solstice, which is a multi cultural/religion celebration and close enough to Christmas for Christians to observe on that day. There is no factual, or even traditional basis for Christmas on December 25th.

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    I said it was Ironic that it was 30 years after the trail of tears . so that Gotta go could not say that the holiday was made before the atrocities when in fact it was made after , haven't you read the things I was quoting first before you posted ? ( I understand people like the jump the gun sometimes )
    False. Get your facts straight before making statements like that.
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