View Poll Results: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    That holiday is all in ones face ever seen all those Christmas specials on TV all the time but yet not another faiths , Like Hanukah as you have said never seen one . Christmas was never meant to be all inclusive it was to over shadow the romans holiday which in that time period , or the holiday would be in the spring , but now its all about ham and Santa clause as well as his elves so its cool .
    Christians should have no problem celebrating the religiously neutral Winter Solstice on December 21st, so no economic harm will be done. If some of them insist on celebrating on Dec. 25, despite the lack of factual or traditional basis for that date, they can take a day off like people from other religions routinely do for their holidays.

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    A holiday is as religious as you want to make it. Period.

    Do you think I light candles for 8 days, or go without food for 40?
    I meant in the holiday it was watered down .

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    I meant in the holiday it was watered down .
    All holidays are watered down. What's the problem?

    Non-religious people can exchange gifts and hide eggs for their kids. Indians and non-Indians can eat turkey and stuffing and mashed potatoes.

    Long story short, it's no big deal. Anyone lobbying to eliminate holidays for reasons as petty as what was mentioned earlier in this thread is so full of angst that they're better off eating a bullet and ending their misery. Either that or just go postal already. End result is the same.

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    I think we ought to update our narrative of Thanksgiving and acknowledge the less savory parts of our history. But what's wrong with the 4th of July?
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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    So the Solstice, usually around Dec 21, should be just as good and eliminate the last officially recognized religious holiday
    Reversion to a Pagan holiday? Say it ain't so.....



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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    I celebrate every day. True, some are better than others, but I'm happy to experience them. Play around with all the holidays you want. Just leave Groundhog Day alone.

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I think we ought to update our narrative of Thanksgiving and acknowledge the less savory parts of our history. But what's wrong with the 4th of July?
    Do you just have some desire to piss on people and bring them down?

    Christmas has its origins as a pagan festival, but what's it to you or anyone else if people want to think that Jesus was born in late December?

    Geez. Some people are absolute mood-killers.

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    I cannot personally think of a single legitimate reason to cancel either holiday. Celebrating Independence Day could only (with a severe stretch) offend the Brits, since we're celebrating our independence from them... but I don't know of a single Brit who is offended by our 4th of July celebrations. As for Thanksgiving glorifying the killing of Native Americans, WTF??? Doesn't it celebrate a meal shared with colonists and Native Americans together?

    Please spare me the tale about it really being when the colonists slaughtered an Indian village to steal all their food. That's speculative rubbish. Even if our current story of the first Thanksgiving is a myth... no eye witnesses at this point... it's a "myth" of coming together, not tearing apart.

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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Should the United States do away with Thanksgiving and the 4th of July as designated public holidays in favor of something more inline with changing demographics?

    I chalk up most of my nephews political views to being college age but over a weekend BBQ they seemed pretty adamant that some of our public (federally recognized) holidays were insensitive to minorities in this country. They seemed to view Thanksgiving and July 4th as particularly offensive.
    Huh??? I've been a minority all my life and Thanksgiving as well as the 4th of July have always been 2 of my favorite holidays. I don't think I'm different from most other minorities in that regard. What I do see as a slight problem is although the overwhelming majority of minorities in this country enthusiastically celebrate holidays like Thanksgiving Day, Independence Day and St. Patrick's Day; there is not anywhere near the level of support by non-minorities in the celebration of observances like Martin Luther King Day, Juneteenth and Black History Month. In fact, many non-minorities actually resent these observances, let alone refuse to celebrate them. I'd love to see the day when we are truly one nation, under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. I firmly believe if non-minorities gave the same level of enthusiasm toward BHM, MLK Day, etc. as minorities give to honoring Irish American heritage on St. Patrick's Day and honoring the Mayflower Pilgrims; much of the remaining limited racial divide that still exists would be gone in short order.

    But to answer your question, if you asked most minorities, at least blacks would have a conniption fit at the suggestion of ending Thanksgiving and the 4th of July and would continue to celebrate them anyway.
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    Re: Should we cancel Thanksgiving and the 4th of July?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post

    BONUS: We all need friends of different races.
    That right there.
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