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Thread: Conservatives Only -- Are you for the Gang of 8 Immigration Bill?

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    Re: Conservatives Only -- Are you for the Gang of 8 Immigration Bill?

    How does it move the country forward to brokenly treat this issue the same way we have for a long time?

    Secure the border than amnesty. No deal should be made granting amnesty until we are certain this will not come up again in 20 years. Then reform the legal immigration process to make it easier.

    People call it immigration reform, which is a farce. Given current illegals amnesty is not a systematic change that will work in the long term. It will be the same as every other immigration bill, amnesty will be given, the security to the border will never be funded, and then later down the line we'll have a whole bunch of illegal immigrants again who we'll need to give amnesty to.
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    Re: Conservatives Only -- Are you for the Gang of 8 Immigration Bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    a large portion of those who do it "legally" do so through kickbacks to local officials. People shouldn't be able to "buy" their way to citizenship. That is just as big of a fiasco as those who come here illegally.
    And there are those who do it legally, 100%.

    I won't deny that there are various ways to circumvent the process, and I agree that can be as detrimental as those who are illegal, mainly because those who can afford and will circumvent, are usually criminals.
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    Re: Conservatives Only -- Are you for the Gang of 8 Immigration Bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    I heard a commercial on the radio the other day that discussed the immigration bill and applauded the conservatives for "moving the country forward" by approving of this bill. How many conservatives here on DP are for this bill?
    I'm not or never will support any bill that awards law breakers amnesty.

    I and the American people were lied to in 1986 that by rewarding illegal aliens amnesty that this would be the first and last time it would ever be done and that our borders would be secured and our immigration laws will be enforced in the interior. It was a lie !

    Since 1986 Congress has snuck through six other amnesty bills with the same promises. Six more lies !

    I'm tired being lied too. No more rewarding criminal behavior and no more lies.

    America's immigration policies are suppose to be what's best for America and the American people. Not what's best for the immigrant or the Democrat Party.

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    Re: Conservatives Only -- Are you for the Gang of 8 Immigration Bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    a large portion of those who do it "legally" do so through kickbacks to local officials. People shouldn't be able to "buy" their way to citizenship. That is just as big of a fiasco as those who come here illegally.
    I was wonder who would be the first liberal to respond to this poll that's for conservatives only.
    Kinda like voter fraud and who commits it.

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    Re: Conservatives Only -- Are you for the Gang of 8 Immigration Bill?

    The government is going to reform and streamline a government agency? Not a chance, which leads me to believe this bill is crap.
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    Re: Conservatives Only -- Are you for the Gang of 8 Immigration Bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    And there are those who do it legally, 100%.

    I won't deny that there are various ways to circumvent the process, and I agree that can be as detrimental as those who are illegal, mainly because those who can afford and will circumvent, are usually criminals.
    Actually...those who can afford and often circumvent the process are not criminals at all....they are just people with the means to do so and people that have connections to government officials.
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    Re: Conservatives Only -- Are you for the Gang of 8 Immigration Bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I was wonder who would be the first liberal to respond to this poll that's for conservatives only.
    Kinda like voter fraud and who commits it.
    If you look closely....I didn't vote in the poll. Sorry...but once again a big FAIL. LOL....
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    Re: Conservatives Only -- Are you for the Gang of 8 Immigration Bill?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Actually...those who can afford and often circumvent the process are not criminals at all....they are just people with the means to do so and people that have connections to government officials.
    And those with enough power and money to have connections to government officials....
    Building block or stumbling block.... choose.

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    Re: Conservatives Only -- Are you for the Gang of 8 Immigration Bill?

    I will never support any bill that grants amnesty to illegal criminals, period. It's one thing to require them to go through the same process as other legal immigrants, I might even support them staying in the country during the process, and certainly we need to streamline the process so that it doesn't take as long, but to just give people a free pass because they crawled over a fence or swam across a river is stupid. We ought to fine them extra, in addition to requiring they pay all back taxes owed, before letting them stay anyhow. Criminal behavior for *ANY* reason ought not be rewarded.
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    Re: Conservatives Only -- Are you for the Gang of 8 Immigration Bill?

    It's amnesty under a different name. No I don't support it.
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