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"The information may be available as soon as Monday" [NSA scandal] suspicious?

Do you find the waiting time for proof suspicious?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 36.4%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 1 9.1%

  • No

    Votes: 6 54.5%

  • Other [do comment, please]

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    11
Ikari said:
We defacto knew it. But that's a long way off from confirmation. Now that it's confirmed that they're doing it, it's a new ballgame. So the NSA is trying desperately to try to present their actions as legal and doing doing their best to make it seem as if it wasn't aimed against the people.

Now that this is confirmed, the next logical question is "well what other stuff are they doing that we have no idea about?"

You of course are free to disagree, but you shouldn't expect everyone else to just accept the BS lines the government is feeding us.
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I don't "just accept" them.

I believe the difference in our outlook lies in our backgrounds. Having most likely not be around when all this started, you apparently have no clue how long this kind of thing has been happening. To become outraged and indignant at this point is meaningless. Though I applaud your sense of social awareness, we've been well past this kind of minor dispute at the fringe of privacy for a long, long time.

Personally, I would like nothing better than to go clear back to the pre-FISA days and start over but that's impossible. We're well into the rut, now. This situation is the latest but far from the worst. The military mentality, given no outward enemy, will invariably turn inward. Where's the Red Menace, now?
 
MoSurveyor said:
I don't "just accept" them.

I believe the difference in our outlook lies in our backgrounds. Having most likely not be around when all this started, you apparently have no clue how long this kind of thing has been happening. To become outraged and indignant at this point is meaningless. Though I applaud your sense of social awareness, we've been well past this kind of minor dispute at the fringe of privacy for a long, long time.

Personally, I would like nothing better than to go clear back to the pre-FISA days and start over but that's impossible. We're well into the rut, now. This situation is the latest but far from the worst. The military mentality, given no outward enemy, will invariably turn inward. Where's the Red Menace, now?
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I didn't start my protest to massive government databasing and data mining with this event. And "so it goes" may work for Vonnegut, but it is a very dangerous mentality to take with government force.
 
rocket88 said:
It doesn't have anything to do with how it was gathered, and I don't agree with the methods used. But whatever the method, you don't show the other guy your hand by revealing the intelligence.
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Nor do you break peoples rights and break laws to accomplish things either.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Nor do you break peoples rights and break laws to accomplish things either.
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No you don't. I don't support that, as I said. But once you have the information, you don't tip your hand no matter how you got it.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Simple summary should suffice.
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Like, "We stopped a Al Qaeda attack on such-and-such"? Somehow I doubt that would be sufficient for most people.
 
Travelsonic said:
While reading this CNN article regarding the NSA scandal, and the idea that this helped prevent many acts of terrorism, one quote piqued my interest:



And, watching other news stations have heard similar things.

[I do wonder, do they mean next Monday, not today but a week from today?]

My question is, doesn't that make any of you suspicious?

I mean, sure editing may have to be done to remove information that, if revealed, may actually pose some sort of a threat perhaps, but if these acts by the NSA did help the way they are claiming they have, don't you think that it would already be on record in some form? IF so, wouldn't that mean it is a matter of compiling the information, editing it if needed, and whatnot? How does that, which I've heard "is coming" since last week if I remember correctly, take that long?

Now, I'm not saying anything funny is going on, just that it feels wrong, suspicious, and my bull**** meter is going off.
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Just like the Benghazi emails....
 
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