View Poll Results: Whatís your take on Benghazi?

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  • Whatís a Benghazi?

    4 9.52%
  • A stupid video incited localized terror

    2 4.76%
  • Letís not forget the atrocities of George Bush

    4 9.52%
  • Barack Obama had nothing to do with this

    2 4.76%
  • The President and his staff need to be thoroughly investigated

    26 61.90%
  • Iím afraid of what we might find if we dig too deep

    4 9.52%
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Thread: Where do you stand?

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    Re: Where do you stand?

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    This is not a good poll. None of the responses accurately represent the situation.
    This is not a good response. You fail to explain how this is not a good poll.

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    Re: Where do you stand?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    This is not a good response. You fail to explain how this is not a good poll.
    I do. The 2nd sentence explains it. In general, putting aside wording of questions, a useful poll should contain a response that accurately reflects the situation about which a question is being asked. That is not the case with this poll.

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    Re: Where do you stand?

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    It's complex. But based on the information currently available, I'd summarize it as follows:

    1) Planning for security, etc., was somewhat chaotic and disorganized prior to the attacks.
    2) Once the terrorist attack was underway, there was no effective way to do more to rescue those under attack. U.S. fighter jets were in Italy.
    3) The messaging afterwards was not very good. Subsequent accounts had to be revised. The gap between the early accounts and later accounts had an impact on credibility. That gap was also exploited in the partisan jockeying, both in Washington and by political pundits along idealogical or partisan lines.
    4) There was an investigation and recommendations were made. The focus should be on learning from what happened, not tilting at windmills aimed a politicizing what was a terrible tragedy.

    In terms of long-term political impact, I do not believe the Benghazi attacks will have any serious adverse impact should former Secretary of State Clinton seek the Presidency.
    I think your final sentence reflects your concerns.

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    Re: Where do you stand?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I think your final sentence reflects your concerns.
    That's an analytical statement based on polling data and the actual events as to what happened at Benghazi (based on the latest info.), not concerns.

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    Re: Where do you stand?

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    That's an analytical statement based on polling data and the actual events as to what happened at Benghazi (based on the latest info.), not concerns.

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    No doubt. My statement is an evaluation of your concerns, which are reflected in your last sentence. Clinton's future political prospects have nothing whatever to do with the events which transpired in Benghazi. That you addressed her future while analyzing Benghazi speaks to exactly what I mentioned.

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    Re: Where do you stand?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Major league f-up. Not criminal.
    How many more Americans would have had to get killed for it to become 'criminal' ???????

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    Re: Where do you stand?

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    How many more Americans would have had to get killed for it to become 'criminal' ???????
    That depends on Clinton's political viability in 2016. If she is running, no amount would rise to the level of criminality. This is all in the interest of the greater good, of course. We must have a democrat in the WH, it must be a woman, and it must be Hillary. Besides, what difference does it make?

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    Re: Where do you stand?

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    How many more Americans would have had to get killed for it to become 'criminal' ???????
    the number does not determine criminality ... you can have one dead and it's criminal and 1000 on the other hand and it not be criminal ... let's take Iraq ... we lost over 4000 soldiers (and many more innocent civilians) based largely on lies told by an administration hell bent on wanting a war. Was that criminal? I think it is, but I've yet to see evidence that there was criminality in Benghazi ... incompetence, probably, including by Congressmen/women who didn't provide adequate funding for security requested by the State Dept. You have Issa heading that investigation, trying as hard as he can to find or make something up, and yet, nothing that rises to criminal thus far ... we'll see ..

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    Re: Where do you stand?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    A screw up that will not effect the Teflon in Chief.

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    Re: Where do you stand?

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    How many more Americans would have had to get killed for it to become 'criminal' ???????
    It's not the number, it's the situation and the actions. A decision was made about embassy security, and it was the wrong decision. But I don't want a situation where every decision made by the President is reviewable by Congress, regardless of anyone's political affiliation.

    If the same decisions were made and nobody died, would that make it OK with you? I suspect it would barely even be a story if that were the case. The criminality is based on the decisions made and the reasons for them, not the results.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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