View Poll Results: Whatís your take on Benghazi?

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  • Whatís a Benghazi?

    4 9.52%
  • A stupid video incited localized terror

    2 4.76%
  • Letís not forget the atrocities of George Bush

    4 9.52%
  • Barack Obama had nothing to do with this

    2 4.76%
  • The President and his staff need to be thoroughly investigated

    26 61.90%
  • Iím afraid of what we might find if we dig too deep

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Thread: Where do you stand?

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    Re: Where do you stand?

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    This is not a good poll. None of the responses accurately represent the situation.
    Hi Don, nice to see you as always. How would you summarize the situation? You tend to have a refreshingly honest, straightforward, balanced view and I am really curious as to hear your thoughts.
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    Re: Where do you stand?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Libertarians can trash both Bush and Obama. It's allowed.
    Well, actual Libertarians can. It's the ones that think the word "libertarian" is just a cooler sounding way to say "Republican" that you have to watch out for.


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    Re: Where do you stand?

    I agree that the poll doesn't accurately reflect the situation, so I didn't respond on the poll.

    My take on Bengazi is that it was a time of chaos, with riots in Egypt and US embassies being attacked in Egypt and one other country (can't recall which), wild protests in other countries about some stupid film, all at the same time the consulate was attacked in Bengazi. Nobody knew what the heck was going on in Libya, because the Libyan government did not secure the scene, which was burned and looted, and refused to allow US investigators into the country for weeks.

    Since then, Bengazi has been used as a political football, with investigation after investigation trying to find a smoking gun to prove "Obama's" involvement in... something shady. What we have learned is that the CIA annotated talking points, changing some verbiage since facts were still in the process of being confirmed, and Susan Rice repeated those talking points, which was her job. Election fever then took over, tarnishing Rice in an attempt to lower Obama's re-election potential.

    Now we pretty well know that it was a planned attack by Libyan terrorist groups. You'd think the focus would then shift to finding those involved, but no. Somehow, someway this attack is Obama's fault, and looks like his political opponents are going to spend the next four years trying to prove it.

    In closing, this poll sucks.

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    Re: Where do you stand?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Hi Don, nice to see you as always. How would you summarize the situation? You tend to have a refreshingly honest, straightforward, balanced view and I am really curious as to hear your thoughts.
    It's complex. But based on the information currently available, I'd summarize it as follows:

    1) Planning for security, etc., was somewhat chaotic and disorganized prior to the attacks.
    2) Once the terrorist attack was underway, there was no effective way to do more to rescue those under attack. U.S. fighter jets were in Italy.
    3) The messaging afterwards was not very good. Subsequent accounts had to be revised. The gap between the early accounts and later accounts had an impact on credibility. That gap was also exploited in the partisan jockeying, both in Washington and by political pundits along idealogical or partisan lines.
    4) There was an investigation and recommendations were made. The focus should be on learning from what happened, not tilting at windmills aimed a politicizing what was a terrible tragedy.

    In terms of long-term political impact, I do not believe the Benghazi attacks will have any serious adverse impact should former Secretary of State Clinton seek the Presidency.

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    Re: Where do you stand?

    I think the administration was upset about the internet video, and had pre-determined to attack it (and the first admendment) at the earliest sign it had caused repercussions in middle east.

    So! They jumped in, and found themselves in deep doodoo, and no easy way to extricate themselves.


    They shouldn't have been looking for an opening to bash 1st amendment anyway. Obama admin deserves whatever censure it gets!
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    Re: Where do you stand?

    I stand right here, in my hometown, thinking that maybe it would be best if we just stayed the hell out of the Middle East entirely and let them kill each other to their hearts' content. If they commit terrorism HERE, we should find out where the tangos came from/who aided and supported them, bomb that town to dust, and say "don't do that again or next time the bombing zone doubles in size."


    There's too many crazy people in that part of the world.



    (But yeah, I think somebody dropped the ball on Bengazi and yeah, it was covered up as long as possible mainly because of the elections. Sucks. )

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    Re: Where do you stand?

    None of those. A attack on a embassy/cia compound in which 4 Americans died, where there was no cover up and the conservatives tried to run with this for a while and it didnt really work.


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    Re: Where do you stand?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Libertarians can trash both Bush and Obama. It's allowed.
    Or they can simply trash George Bush on a Barack Obama related thread. It's allowed, and it's also liberal.

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    Re: Where do you stand?

    my take is that we should have zero embassies in hostile or unstable nations.

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    Re: Where do you stand?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    my take is that we should have zero embassies in hostile or unstable nations.
    A lesson we should have learned some 30 years ago in Tehran.

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