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    Re: Is Obama's Public Support of the Syrian Rebels a Diversionary Foreign Policy Tact

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    And they will lose.
    Really? The FSA outnumbers the Syrian Islamic Front and the Al-Nusra front combined. Not to mention, if anyone is getting American weapons, it's the FSA. They stand a solid chance.
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    Re: Is Obama's Public Support of the Syrian Rebels a Diversionary Foreign Policy Tact

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Really? The FSA outnumbers the Syrian Islamic Front and the Al-Nusra front combined. Not to mention, if anyone is getting American weapons, it's the FSA. They stand a solid chance.
    I genuinely hope that you are right.

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    Re: Is Obama's Public Support of the Syrian Rebels a Diversionary Foreign Policy Tact

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I genuinely hope that you are right.
    As do I.
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    Re: Is Obama's Public Support of the Syrian Rebels a Diversionary Foreign Policy Tact

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanstantine View Post
    As mean as he is, Assad provides stability.

    Stability with Israel, Iran, Iraq, and Lebanon.

    Why would we want to lose that stability?
    l have to agree
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    Re: Is Obama's Public Support of the Syrian Rebels a Diversionary Foreign Policy Tact

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    When Assad is toppled, Syria will become an Islamic theocracy. Of that I am certain, although I'd love to be wrong. Once Assad is gone, the civil war will turn into a religious war between Sunni and Shiia. No matter which wins, it will be bad for Syria and bad for the world, and if the Shiia win... which it most likely will given the Shiia majority there, it will be worse, because they will have instant allies in Iran, Iraq, Pakistan and Afghanistan, among others.

    This is just a gut feeling, because I do not have the educational depth about the region to give an informed and sourced opinion on the topic. I did, however, accurately predict the long-term outcome in both Afghanistan and Iraq ten years ago... so I kinda-sorta trust my gut on this stuff.
    l agree diana

    thats why l have been trying to draw attention to fake springs .
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    Re: Is Obama's Public Support of the Syrian Rebels a Diversionary Foreign Policy Tact

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Do you believe that Obama's public support for the Syrian Rebels by arming them a diversionary foreign policy tactic?

    To get an idea watch this short video: Escobar: Obama starts Syria war to deviate from Snowden scandal - YouTube

    Do you think its a tactic or do you think its tactic used by the Obama admin?
    "Obama starts Syria war"....not very accurate is it? Or do we need war to only exist if we can throw America into the mix? Those almost 100,000 dead Muslims at the hands of other Muslims over the last two years didn't really happen? No matter the slaughter we call it "peace" until the U.S.A. gets involved?

    Muslims started the Syrian War two years ago. Muslims started the Arab Spring years before that. The joke amongst people seem to be how they are completely oblivious to what they actually stand for. People criticize the U.S. for its dictator support during the Cold War in the name of stability. The same people criticize the U.S. for taking out one of the last standing dictators. And the same people criticize the Arab Spring because religious nuts stand the chance of rising to temporary powers or theocracies. And what have we now? People criticize the U.S. for not supporting the Syrian dictator like Russia is. The way I see it, these hypocritical critics want the U.S. to support dictators over Muslims with a reservation of bitching about it later in order to feign a sense of good morality.

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    Re: Is Obama's Public Support of the Syrian Rebels a Diversionary Foreign Policy Tact

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanstantine View Post
    As mean as he is, Assad provides stability.

    Stability with Israel, Iran, Iraq, and Lebanon.

    Why would we want to lose that stability?
    Because it's that "stability" that has bred so much Muslim anger and rage towards the West, specifically America, that manifests itself in mass organized terrorism. 9/11 was a symptom of a disease that Cold War "stability" encouraged. Muslims slaughter upon Muslims throughout the region is tribally based and has been encouraged through elitist preaching that has been protected under the individuals of that "stability."

    The "stability" you are referring to is fleeting and always was. Sooner or later the individuals that enforce and regulate that "stability" have to contend with a rising discontent in the population that erupts in revolution, coup, and rebellion. And when they need someone to blame for how powerful those individuals who slaughter them are they merely look West and groom radical extremists.

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    Re: Is Obama's Public Support of the Syrian Rebels a Diversionary Foreign Policy Tact

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    What about his little "talks" with Ahmadinejad? He certainly isn't taking a hard line approach in a lot instances, and I don't think his foreign policies have proven to be successful at all. Besides, we can't fix those countries. It's only a matter of time before there is another problem. A lot of them are just lost causes IMO, and I also think that in a lot of cases, the citizens of those countries should be the ones to overthrow their dictators if that's what they want.
    I was just thinking that we have supported or put more dictators in power than dictators we've taken out ...

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    Re: Is Obama's Public Support of the Syrian Rebels a Diversionary Foreign Policy Tact

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    ...... Let Syria sort itself out.
    A simple slogan that works for simple problems.

    Syria isn't sorting itself out is it? Syria has had events border events that threatened Turkey's involvement. Turkey is a member of NATO, which would involve others. Syria has also had Hezbollah, financed by Iran, get involved. Israel has bombed into Syria to attack Hezbollah fighters who are gun running. Hezbollah is based in Lebanon. When will Syrian forces attack Hezbollah camps in Lebanon? So what we have here is a local civil issue in Syria that has, so far, involved Turkey, Iran, Lebanon, and Israel. And of course Russia has been supplying arms to the Syrian government. Right before your very eyes you are witnessing an escalation of countries into what seemed to be something very minor.

    Sort itself out? You sound like the many people in the first half of the 20th century who insisted that small problems in Europe need only to sort itself out. Perhaps we should do nothing and pretend that we can go untouched as the region explodes into World War. That way, we can spend far more and bleed more for what should have been tackled when it was more manageable.

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    Re: Is Obama's Public Support of the Syrian Rebels a Diversionary Foreign Policy Tact

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    I was just thinking that we have supported or put more dictators in power than dictators we've taken out ...
    That was Cold War mentality. That's over and has been for a very, very long time. People's mistake continues to be to pretend that we are forever stuck during that Cold War. Watching the Arab Spring take down these instruments of "stability" is exactly what we needed to do. If they slaughter each other along their way to more successful democracies, so be it. It's their culture. The sooner they are forced to take responsibility for their own civilization's failure the better and they weren't ever going to do it under Western supported dictators.

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