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    Re: 1984

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Please tell me you're kidding, Josie. Seriously?
    Not kidding.


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    Re: 1984

    Abandon hope. Sigh, not that anybody will recognize Dante either.

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    Re: 1984

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Please tell me you're kidding, Josie. Seriously?
    Jeepers, have you ever seen Jay Walking? Leno asks for the identity of the person in the picture (usually someone very obvious, like Abraham Lincoln) and the common answer is "I dunno. Some old dude?"

    As for the books 1984 and Animal Farm, I have read them both years ago, but when I bought my ipad, I bought the digital version of both.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: 1984

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Yes but a few people had them at first. No phone, no listen. I doubt if they could scan regular mail.
    Bur now virtually everyone has a phone and a TV, which makes monitoring a piece of cake.
    Bill Gates once said that "640K ought to be enough for anybody". Now the regular redneck HDD is already 1 TB which gives almost limitless potential to record and process info - metadata, video streams, logs, etc. etc.
    By the mid-70's pretty much everyone had a TV and a phone - even private lines in most cases. They didn't scan snail mail anymore then than they do now.

    I remember adding a 1 Mb RAM stick to my computer, then using RAMDisk because DOS couldn't use the extra memory correctly.


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    Re: 1984

    My high-school cut 1984 from the curriculum and instead we read the bible.

    I read the book and thought it was okay, I don't really get the hype and although it slightly accurately represents what the US is like today. I think it mirrors more what London is like. Honestly, I think everyone knew already that our phones could be tapped at any time, and every email we've ever sent is in some massive database somewhere. That's why I gave up on running for president a long time ago.

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    Re: 1984

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Yeah, I can see why that would spur interest...Forced to read it in 10th grade. In fact, the *only* high school book that was worth reading. Hopefully they aren't reading it and going "I want to join the NSA now!!"
    The great irony of Orwell is that a socialist is responsible for helping influence my libertarian-leaning positions.

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    Re: 1984

    Quote Originally Posted by M_A View Post
    My high-school cut 1984 from the curriculum and instead we read the bible.
    Did anyone notice the difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by M_A View Post
    I read the book and thought it was okay, I don't really get the hype
    It's a good novel independently of any politics hung off it. I think it's sad that a good book has been overwhelmed by it's use as symbology. I'd even suggest the modern use of the terms "Big Brother" and "Orwellian" are often at least as reflective of some of the themes of the novel as the things they're used against.

    The idea that Orwell intend 1984 as a prediction of the future is simplistic at best though and calling it prophetic laughable. While you might be able to identify similarities with some of the equipment involved in the novel and in our society today, the politics which was the core of the novel is much more complex and diverse than a direct comparison could encompass, be it of today or of 1940s Europe, which was a direct influence on much of what Orwell wrote.

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    Re: 1984

    Big brother was watching you but in the book it did more than watching you, it totally and completely interfered with the lives of the people in the book. It controlled their lives totally, free choice was a figment of their imagination, PRISM might mine your data but it does not control you or the free choices you are able to make. That is the big difference between the book and the reality that we find ourselves in.
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    Re: 1984

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Did anyone notice the difference?

    It's a good novel independently of any politics hung off it. I think it's sad that a good book has been overwhelmed by it's use as symbology. I'd even suggest the modern use of the terms "Big Brother" and "Orwellian" are often at least as reflective of some of the themes of the novel as the things they're used against.

    The idea that Orwell intend 1984 as a prediction of the future is simplistic at best though and calling it prophetic laughable. While you might be able to identify similarities with some of the equipment involved in the novel and in our society today, the politics which was the core of the novel is much more complex and diverse than a direct comparison could encompass, be it of today or of 1940s Europe, which was a direct influence on much of what Orwell wrote.
    I'd suggest that you go to Google Scholar and type "Orwell prophetic" in the search bar.

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    Re: 1984

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Abandon hope.
    I hope this isn't meant as a prediction of the future!

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