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Continuing isn't the same as starting. Once the damage was done, merely leaving was not really an option (regardless of who was president).
The problem for too many people is that they insist that Bush started anything. Bush merely inherited this Frankenstein's Monster region and reacted to the symptoms. 9/11, Osama, Al-Queda, Hussein, Gaddafi, the House of Saud, Hezbollah, Assad, etc. are all symptoms of an entire civilization failing before your very eyes. The consequence of that failure (under Muslim leadership) is the creation of Islamic terrorist organizations that seek "foreign devils" to blame for their own culture's doing. The Middle East was a powder keg and 9/11 was merely the Arch Duke Ferdinand of the situation. The later Arab Spring, where the populations finally erupted over their dictators, is and was always in the cards. Tribal slaughter and religious excitement was always in the making. It merely needed the push that Iraqi voters in 2010 gave them. I realize that war protestors demand that Iraq remain a black hole for which no Muslim can see, but this just isn't practical to the media outlet frenzy world we live in. It's amazing how many people on the Left continue to pretend in falsehoods over this region and even more amazing is the Right's complaint and fear about the Arab Spring that screamed "democracy" and not "caliphate." Today, both ignorantly complain about Syria even as it systematically pulls every nation in its surrounding proximity towards reaction. Bigger wars start this way. Even World Wars start this way. Perhaps we should wait until the small event turns into something grand so that we can send hundreds of thousands of troops to their deaths in a serious war years from now. After all, that seems to be what people demand in order to feel "justified" in military action.
And who said democrats were liberal?
The same kind of folk that say Republicans are Conservative. And yes, Liberals have and continue to give Obama his because "Hope and Change" continues to be the fantasy. The great Bush critic has merely turned out to be a Bush systems supporter and a whistle blower's nightmare. Bombing Pakistan with escalating UAV strikes, NSA surveillances, mobey from lobbyists, and worsening transparency are just a few of the issues that "Hope and Change" defines. Personally, I don't care either way about that. I voted for McCain and then I voted last year for Obama. Not because I believe in none of their BS, but because I believe in the truth of the world. But the greatest joke is to watch Republicans and Conservatives criticize what they used to support as Democrats and Liberals support today what they used to pathetically whine about. "Hope and Change"....."Camelot"....what is it with Liberals and their fantasy White Houses?
The sooner Americans recognize that the majority of them have no representation in Washington the sooner things will change. Like economic recessions, political decrepitness is historically cyclical.