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Thread: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

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    Re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Well that would be a point, but drilling him for why he isn't discussing Syria on this Thread seems pointless.
    I've been on the Syria threads, and there have been very FEW liberals participating, and I don't believe Boo is one of them. It shows his blind partisanship.

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    Re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Using a dictator to fill a vacuum was Cold War tactics and sufficed because those that were empowered to make decisions lacked vision and understanding of where they were in history. Instead of doing exactly what we did with World War II, they stopped short of the dictator, took the easy way out, and encouraged the people to rise up only to be slaughtered while we threw ourselves a parade for victory. Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney and the rest were wrong in 1991 and they helped to create the UN mission that would later give Osama Bin Laden excuses as Iraqis starved and we escalated troop strengths in the holy land to contain him.




    And so it should. All of those nations have to trade and get along. This doesn't mean that Iran has influence over anything in regards to Iraq policy. Both countries are more nationalistic than you think.



    Is that the goal? Because we still have Nazis running around here and there too. This is generational. Always has been. You don't spend a century shaking this region up and hope to fix it over night. The goal is not to destroy terrorism. It is to make it more manageable just like it is everywhere else in the world.

    But what really did they do to us? The Stock Market recovered within days. Some people died for which we now know Osama Bin Laden got to see his beloved Islamic region erupt into chants for democracy before he died. Contrary to what protestors like to state, he did not get what he wanted. He did not see America react militarily so that the region could rise up and re-create Islam in a Caliphate's image. He failed and got the opposite and if he could live a hundred years perhaps he would see a very different Middle East where his kind can't thrive and organize.


    Well that's true.
    Didn't say anything about a dictator.

    I'm not sure what the goal is concerning Iraq. But the Iraq invasion didn't hurt al Qaeda, that's the point.

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    Re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Point is you're whining about something that's already done. Why aren't you complaining about the current happenings in the Middle East?
    I'm answering a question here. Oddly, few are really defending Obama, other than to say it isn't quite equal to Bush, Obama having not invaded another country on a pretext.

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    Re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    But it is related to Iraq. If one is going to say that our invasion in Iraq created radicals and they traveled to Iraq to fight then one must also acknowledge that moderates also have television sets and were watching Iraqi developments. Do you actually think that the first time that Arabs voted in Arab history went unnoticed by the reformers? Two months after their first election without support, a Tunisian man sets himself on fire over oppression and sparks the Arab Spring and you think they are oblivious from each other?

    I used to state that democracy in the region starts with Iraq and people would tell me no way. Now that it is occurring here and there I am told that they aren't related by those same people? C'mon. At least give the sequence of events its credibility. The only way they are not related is that the U.S. didn't have to send in the Marines. Muslims elsewhere finally did for themselves what Iraqis are already doing on their television sets.
    Moderates by in large were not in favor of our actions in Iraq. Iraq slowed it down, and there are radicals making hay in this as well. There is no certainty any of these places will turn out better. I think you're misreading what is happening.

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    Re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I've been on the Syria threads, and there have been very FEW liberals participating, and I don't believe Boo is one of them. It shows his blind partisanship.
    Well you aren't going to find a lot of Liberals who will say too much about Obama. Think of their high horse six years ago when they voted for "Hope and Change" only to slowly discover that there was no change. Arguments against Bush in regards to "sovereignty" got silenced as Obama escalated UAV strikes into Pakistan and later into Yemen. Arguments against Bush about closing GITMO got silenced as Liberals see thriving hunger strikes in GITMO six years later. Arguments against Bush about transparency got silenced as Obama proved to be worse than Bush and defends the latest NSA scandal of secrecy. Arguments against Bush about lifting whistleblowers to hero status got silenced as the Obama administration began to mount more investigations into leaks and now chases a whistleblower around the world.

    Gays in the military was already on the way because of the civil suit and Iraqi pullout was already scheduled under Bush. There's Universal Health Care, but reports show that this is an absolute mess on every level. Liberals have had a long ways to fall from six years ago when they were riding high on "Hope and Change." So you won't find many of them opinionated as they were under Bush. In fact, Obama has performed well enough in terms of foreign policy that even I voted for him last year. My record....Bush, Bush, McCain, Obama. People should vote for the man that can deal with the world, not the man with the utopian bull ****.

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    Re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I've been on the Syria threads, and there have been very FEW liberals participating, and I don't believe Boo is one of them. It shows his blind partisanship.
    You have to have someone to disagree with. You miss the point. Singing to the choir has rarely appealed to me.

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    Re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Well you aren't going to find a lot of Liberals who will say too much about Obama. Think of their high horse six years ago when they voted for "Hope and Change" only to slowly discover that there was no change. Arguments against Bush in regards to "sovereignty" got silenced as Obama escalated UAV strikes into Pakistan and later into Yemen. Arguments against Bush about closing GITMO got silenced as Liberals see thriving hunger strikes in GITMO six years later. Arguments against Bush about transparency got silenced as Obama proved to be worse than Bush and defends the latest NSA scandal of secrecy. Arguments against Bush about lifting whistleblowers to hero status got silenced as the Obama administration began to mount more investigations into leaks and now chases a whistleblower around the world.

    Gays in the military was already on the way because of the civil suit and Iraqi pullout was already scheduled under Bush. There's Universal Health Care, but reports show that this is an absolute mess on every level. Liberals have had a long ways to fall from six years ago when they were riding high on "Hope and Change." So you won't find many of them opinionated as they were under Bush. In fact, Obama has performed well enough in terms of foreign policy that even I voted for him last year. My record....Bush, Bush, McCain, Obama. People should vote for the man that can deal with the world, not the man with the utopian bull ****.
    We don't have universal healthcare. Just saying.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Didn't say anything about a dictator.

    I'm not sure what the goal is concerning Iraq. But the Iraq invasion didn't hurt al Qaeda, that's the point.
    Oh. I thought you meant that it helped them. No. It didn't hurt them. But if you look at Al-Queda as merely a symptom of a larger disease then Iraq is a piece of the pie as is Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Tunisia, Libya, Bahrain, Yemen, etc. Say Al-Queda didn't do 9/11. There are hundreds of organizations like this that only need financial backing. We can deal with them as they show threat or we can deal with the failing civilization that breeds them and get this problem managed. A civilization, mind you, that we do have some responsibility towards making. Europeans have more. But most reside within the Muslims themselves and their twisted un-reformed religion.

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    Re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Well you aren't going to find a lot of Liberals who will say too much about Obama. Think of their high horse six years ago when they voted for "Hope and Change" only to slowly discover that there was no change. Arguments against Bush in regards to "sovereignty" got silenced as Obama escalated UAV strikes into Pakistan and later into Yemen. Arguments against Bush about closing GITMO got silenced as Liberals see thriving hunger strikes in GITMO six years later. Arguments against Bush about transparency got silenced as Obama proved to be worse than Bush and defends the latest NSA scandal of secrecy. Arguments against Bush about lifting whistleblowers to hero status got silenced as the Obama administration began to mount more investigations into leaks and now chases a whistleblower around the world.

    Gays in the military was already on the way because of the civil suit and Iraqi pullout was already scheduled under Bush. There's Universal Health Care, but reports show that this is an absolute mess on every level. Liberals have had a long ways to fall from six years ago when they were riding high on "Hope and Change." So you won't find many of them opinionated as they were under Bush. In fact, Obama has performed well enough in terms of foreign policy that even I voted for him last year. My record....Bush, Bush, McCain, Obama. People should vote for the man that can deal with the world, not the man with the utopian bull ****.
    I agree with just about everything here except what I put in bold. I did not vote for Obama and I don't think his foreign policies are so wonderful either. I'm especially bothered about what's happening with Syria right now.

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    Re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You have to have someone to disagree with. You miss the point. Singing to the choir has rarely appealed to me.
    Isn't that "preaching" to the choir?

    And I think you miss the point in that you continue on in this thread about a war that's been over for quite a while, complaining about a president who hasn't been the president for about 5 years now, while you and others have had virtually nothing to say about Syria which is a CURRENT issue and is quite a conundrum for us.

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