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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Women were better off under Saddam...and so too were the children. I'm stunned that there are people here who still buy the BS they were sold in 2003. Jesus ****ing Christ. There is ample resource out there to get real information. Go get it. Quit being stupid ignorant drones.
    mufta.org You can't be serious.

    Saddam institutionalized rape. Female genital mutilation was legal. Honor killings were legal. Women were pets, at best. HS girls were kidnapped by regime men and used in rape palaces as a matter of state policy.

    Pretending that any redeeming stats can be garnered from the black hole of death and torture created by Saddam is the height of audacity.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Why are you changing the subject? Let me guess... you can't provide any real evidence whatsoever that the crime occurring at Abu Graib was ordered from above? Typical conspiracy theory tactic... when shown to be full of crap, divert and change subject.
    Nonsense. It's all there...if you have the balls to see it.
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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I did say it absolved him. Again, stay within the scope if what I've actually claimed.
    Your claims are BS:

    1. That Saddam did not kill hundreds of thousands of children, on purpose, just prior to the war.
    2. That Saddam did not kill in excess of 1m Iraqis, just according to the big stuff, during his dictatorship.
    3. That Saddam therefore killed less than the coalition.
    4. That Iraq would have been all happiness and joy if not for the invasion.

    All BS.

    That's a 2004 article from notorious pillow biters.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    mufta.org You can't be serious.

    Saddam institutionalized rape. Female genital mutilation was legal. Honor killings were legal. Women were pets, at best. HS girls were kidnapped by regime men and used in rape palaces as a matter of state policy.

    Pretending that any redeeming stats can be garnered from the black hole of death and torture created by Saddam is the height of audacity.
    You believe all that? Sheesh.

    Baathist Iraq was secular. You're describing our ally in the region, Saudi Arabia.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ba'athist_Iraq
    The Ba'ath Party, which was secular in nature, harshly repressed the protests. Another policy change was Iraq's foreign policy towards Iran, a Shia Muslim country. Deteriorating relations eventually led to the Iran–Iraq War, which started in 1980 when Iraq launched a full-scale invasion of Iran. Following the 1979 Iranian revolution, the Iraqis believed the Iranians to be weak, and thus an easy target for their military. This notion proved to be incorrect, and the war lasted for eight years. Iraq's economy deteriorated during the war, and the country became dependent on foreign donations to fund their war effort. The war ended in a stalemate when a ceasefire was reached in 1988, which resulted in a status quo ante bellum.

    When the war ended, Iraq found itself in the midst of an economic depression, owed millions of dollars to foreign countries, and was unable to repay its creditors.
    That's why he invaded Kuwait. Debts.
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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    But if the act of that person is for selfish reasons why does it need to be revered?
    It's not purely selfish.

    Again, dude... RIP FREE OF THE ABSOLUTISM!

    It's got ya, bad!

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    We should appreciate those who serve us, whatever an individual's reasoning may be. It's not for me to judge you; yet, I can appreciate support. For example, we tip a waiter even though it is his job to do what he did. It seems you remain stuck in a sort of false dichotomy of absolutism. Having dispelled the notion of altruism, you now seem to believe that people should not appreciate anything. Shake off the absolutism.
    I never said we should never appreciate anything. For example, I appreciate the works of Ernest Hemingway. However, I think there is a difference between appreciating an accomplishment, and revering as 'altruistic' certain positions as we do with military service. It is practically to the point of idolatry.
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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's not purely selfish.
    Example?
    "Men did not make the earth ... it is the value of the improvement only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property... Every proprietor owes to the community a ground rent for the land which he holds." -- Thomas Paine, Agrarian Justice
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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Example?
    We don't need an example! We just need you to abandon absolutism. Just because there is no absolute selflessness does not mean there is no desire to help others. Why can you not leave absolutism behind? Why the need to swing from one absolute to another?

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I never said we should never appreciate anything. For example, I appreciate the works of Ernest Hemingway. However, I think there is a difference between appreciating an accomplishment, and revering as 'altruistic' certain positions as we do with military service. It is practically to the point of idolatry.
    Look

    If I drop my keys and you pick them up for me, I will thank you. Not because I think you did it out of altruism but just because I appreciate you picking up the keys.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    We don't need an example! We just need you to abandon absolutism. Just because there is no absolute selflessness does not mean there is no desire to help others. Why can you not leave absolutism behind? Why the need to swing from one absolute to another?
    So you think an action can be both selfish and selfless (altruistic). And yet, you said you do not believe in altruism. Which is it?
    "Men did not make the earth ... it is the value of the improvement only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property... Every proprietor owes to the community a ground rent for the land which he holds." -- Thomas Paine, Agrarian Justice
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