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Thread: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Then we agree. Altruism does not exist. I do what makes me happy. If helping others makes me happy, I'm not altruist. I'm just doing what I like. I believe everyone does what they want. I don't believe in blaming others for our actions. That goes for "but they did it first" and "but I did it for them". Every action must be justified based on it's merits in context, and pointing fingers at others is pretty much always BS.
    I think you will find few people who use the word 'altruism' and intend it in its pure form.
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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Institutional rape. Isn;t that what Rummy and company ordered up at Abu Graib?
    No, Abu Graib was a crime and prosecuted as such. Unfortunately, crime occurs in the civilian world as well as in the military. The difference between us and Saddam is that we treated such as a crime and not state policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I think you will find few people who use the word 'altruism' and intend it in its pure form.
    The world is full of idiots but words still have meaning.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If you are willing to recognize reality, let's review:

    80's
    Aggressive invasion of Iran, 500k Iraqi killed.
    Genocide of the Kurds, 200k dead, chems on towns of 10000 - women and children dead in the streets
    Aggressive invasion of Kuwait

    90's
    Genocide of the Marsh Arabs, 50k dead in a massive ecologic disaster when Saddam drained the land to kill them
    Violation of 17 Chapter 7 UNSCRs
    Firing on no-fly zones instituted to prevent further genocide
    Institutionalized rape

    00's
    Fake WMD program perpetuated in order to stave off the Iranian regime
    Food proceeds sold to support institutional rape, 400k children (of the opposing faction, of course) starved to death



    Based upon that, you think Iraq's future was violence free?
    Do you even read what I write. If you did, you would know you did not refute me.

    Btw, these are the real numbers:


    Researcher Richard Garfield estimated that "a minimum of 100,000 and a more likely estimate of 227,000 excess deaths among young children from August 1991 through March 1998" from all causes including sanctions.[7] Other estimates have put the number at 170,000 children.[22][29][30] UNICEF Executive Director Carol Bellamy said that


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_Iraq


    You can find these numbers in the research. Over a much longer time than right befor invasion. Stay within my actual claim and not your pretend one.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Do you even read what I write. If you did, you would know you did not refute me.

    Btw, these are the real numbers:


    Researcher Richard Garfield estimated that "a minimum of 100,000 and a more likely estimate of 227,000 excess deaths among young children from August 1991 through March 1998" from all causes including sanctions.[7] Other estimates have put the number at 170,000 children.[22][29][30] UNICEF Executive Director Carol Bellamy said that


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_Iraq


    You can find these numbers in the research. Over a much longer time than right befor invasion. Stay within my actual claim and not your pretend one.
    Arguments about sanctions in the 90's (a debate in and of itself) do not absolve Saddam of directly and intentionally starving 400k children in the years just prior to the invasion.

    Stop distracting and accept reality. When you've accepted reality, adjust your crystal ball.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    So would you also say we shouldn't be getting involved in Syria?

    I'll say that. Loud and clear. Another war of choice. There seems to be a little OIL there. We shouldn't have smacked Libya either.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The world is full of idiots but words still have meaning.
    And I hope you give that reminder to the next person who thanks you for your service. Aren't they implying you did an altruistic thing by serving in the military?
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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No, Abu Graib was a crime and prosecuted as such. Unfortunately, crime occurs in the civilian world as well as in the military. The difference between us and Saddam is that we treated such as a crime and not state policy.
    Someone up there drank all the Kool Aide.

    Here's the link that I added by the edit coming in after you quoted the post. The only rape rooms were the ones we set up.
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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    And I hope you give that reminder to the next person who thanks you for your service. Aren't they implying you did an altruistic thing by serving in the military?
    One need not believe in the fantasy of altruism to appreciate the acts of others.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Iraqis endured terrorist threats and acts in the run-up to and during the elections. Despite heavy oppression by the extremists, young and old, man and woman, Shia and Sunni voted.



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    And now their leader is not the man who got the most votes. More nonsense. You are a veritable fountain of disinformation.

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