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Thread: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Hundreds of thousands, via genocide alone. Starvation for hundreds of thousands more. Invading Iran cost hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.

    Many hundreds of thousands (more than a million), over an about 20 year period, through genocide, starvation and the invasion of neighbors.

    What kind of ignorance allows for Bush to be responsible for more Iraqi deaths than the 20 year genocidal dictator?
    Well...the kind of ignorance that originates with a hatred of 'the guy' and a willingness to overlook all the other factors.

    Sorta like Sean Penn walking hand in hand with Saddam while being showed the millions of dead children and then rather than blaming the dictator for abusing the oil for food and medicines program blaming...well...George Bush...the guy that came in after 8 years of Clinton enforcing the programs.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Hundreds of thousands, via genocide alone. Starvation for hundreds of thousands more. Invading Iran cost hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. Many hundreds of thousands (more than a million), over an about 20 year period, through genocide, starvation and the invasion of neighbors. This does not (as your 1 million stat does, include natural deaths and routine accidents). If we include non-intentional murder, natural events and accidents, then Saddam's number approaches 10 million.

    What kind of ignorance allows for Bush to be responsible for more Iraqi deaths than the 20 year genocidal dictator?
    Anything without links is BullCrap. This is a heavy load. Don't forget to include in GWFirstMoron deaths those caused by DU exposure, long term.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Anything without links is BullCrap.
    Dave, we don't need links to know the numbers. It's common knowledge.

    Invasion of Iran: 500k (dead Iraqis)
    Genocide of Kurds: 200k
    Genocide of Marsh Arabs: 50k
    Starvation via selling baby and child food: 400k

    That's 1.1 million, just on the invasion of neighbors, genocide and direct starvation. He also slaughtered many thousand and starved countless while spending all the country's cash on rape palaces and cronies.

    He institutionalized rape, Dave.
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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Dave, we don't need links to know the numbers. It's common knowledge.

    Invasion of Iran: 500k (dead Iraqis)
    Genocide of Kurds: 200k
    Genocide of Marsh Arabs: 50k
    Starvation via selling baby and child food: 400k

    That's 1.1 million, just on the invasion of neighbors, genocide and direct starvation. He also slaughtered many thousand and staved countless while spending all the country's cash on rape palaces.

    He institutionalized rape, Dave.

    The invasion of Iran was a Reagan/Bush orchestrated fiasco. We sold Saddam the precursors for his poison gas and gave him satellite info on Iranian military locations, etc.
    The US embargo is reputed to have caused the death of a million Iraqis. Those two items put a million and a half on a conscience. It's nice if you don't want it to be true, but reality sucks.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Dave, we don't need links to know the numbers. It's common knowledge.

    Invasion of Iran: 500k (dead Iraqis)
    Genocide of Kurds: 200k
    Genocide of Marsh Arabs: 50k
    Starvation via selling baby and child food: 400k

    That's 1.1 million, just on the invasion of neighbors, genocide and direct starvation. He also slaughtered many thousand and starved countless while spending all the country's cash on rape palaces and cronies.

    He institutionalized rape, Dave.
    There is no question Saddam was evil, and I don't think anyone is disputing that fact. So does that it make it all right that many Iraqis died because of the American invasion?
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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Don't forget to include in GWFirstMoron deaths those caused by DU exposure, long term.
    What about the long term impact of driving ones country into the stone age via genocide, starvation, invading neighbors and institutionalized rape, Dave?

    That's what we're seeing today, Dave. That's what Iraq is trying to recover from. And, with the world's help, we're hoping that they'll make it and join the developed world.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    By the way. The correct poll answer can not be lower than 115,000 because if you read the links, that is the lowest CONSERVATIVE estimate of deaths. This has been a test.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    There is no question Saddam was evil, and I don't think anyone is disputing that fact. So does that it make it all right that many Iraqis died because of the American invasion?
    Then you need to reread the thread, because Dave was claiming that Bush killed more Iraqis than Saddam by factors of power. That's completely disconnected from reality and must be addressed.

    You'll excuse me if I address such disgustingly ignorant and agenda-driven propaganda.

    So you don't continue to miss the statement I was addressing, I'll quote it:

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    So he has the record for Iraqi kills by several orders of magnitude.

    So, MG, do you got a problem with me correcting that?

    If so, why? Do you realize that for Bush to have killed more Iraqis by "several orders of magnitude", he would have had to kill hundreds of billions of Iraqis? That's how totally disconnected that statement is.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 06-12-13 at 12:19 PM.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What about the long term impact of driving ones country into the stone age via genocide, starvation, invading neighbors and institutionalized rape, Dave?

    That's what we're seeing today, Dave. That's what Iraq is trying to recover from. And, with the world's help, we're hoping that they'll make it and join the developed world.

    Iraq is trying to recover from a war that we took to them. Saddam was no saint, but before the war Baghdad was considered a cosmopolitan city with education for women and a decent economy. We kill off a million or so Iraqis just to hep' em' out and for the sake o' bidness. Slide into the real world.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Iraq is trying to recover from a war that we took to them. Saddam was no saint, but before the war Baghdad was considered a cosmopolitan city with education for women and a decent economy. We kill off a million or so Iraqis just to hep' em' out and for the sake o' bidness. Slide into the real world.
    That's fantasy, Dave. Saddam was under crushing sanctions for violating 17 chapter 7 unscrs. The country was entirely without social capital and in shambles. No one with half a brain would ever consider vacation in Iraq under Saddam. The country had been driven into the ground through genocide, starvation and the invasion of neighbors.

    Pretending that Iraq was a decent place before the invasion is nonsense. How can you ignore genocide and institutionalized rape, Dave?
    Last edited by ecofarm; 06-12-13 at 12:07 PM.

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