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Thread: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    How so? I really don't think you know what you're talking about.
    I think he gets that number for here:

    (Reuters) - The U.S. war in Iraq has cost $1.7 trillion with an additional $490 billion in benefits owed to war veterans, expenses that could grow to more than $6 trillion over the next four decades counting interest, a study released on Thursday said.

    Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study | Reuters

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I think he gets that number for here:

    (Reuters) - The U.S. war in Iraq has cost $1.7 trillion with an additional $490 billion in benefits owed to war veterans, expenses that could grow to more than $6 trillion over the next four decades counting interest, a study released on Thursday said.

    Iraq war costs U.S. more than $2 trillion: study | Reuters
    I wasn't referring to his numbers.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Easy to say from where you sit, but hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, millions displaced, and the those suffering from the ravages of war, they may not be as enthusiastic as you. Especially as life isn't really much better.
    Who mentioned the term "enthusiastic?" What I said was I feel sorry for those Iraqis who might have suffered, but the world is still better off without an insane paranoid dictator, not to mention his two crazy sadistic sons.

    I wonder what would have happened had we NOT taken Saddam and his sons out, and his two crazy sons took over Iraq? Have you given THAT scenario any thought?

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Who mentioned the term "enthusiastic?" What I said was I feel sorry for those Iraqis who might have suffered, but the world is still better off without an insane paranoid dictator, not to mention his two crazy sadistic sons.

    I wonder what would have happened had we NOT taken Saddam and his sons out, and his two crazy sons took over Iraq? Have you given THAT scenario any thought?

    Yes, I have. Likely less would have died. We wouldn't have paid so much for little. And the movement that was building in Iran wouldn't have been slowed by our reckless act.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, I have. Likely less would have died. We wouldn't have paid so much for little. And the movement that was building in Iran wouldn't have been slowed by our reckless act.
    The idea to attack was not the problem, it was how it was carried out. Further, Bush was not overly concerned about Iran because Iran was on the list to be taken out.

    We were wrong to use the strategies/tactics that we did, we were not wrong to attack in the first place. The idea to take out sponsors of terror was good, the plan they used was the problem.
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    If the plan was to take out the sponsors, he would have attacked his Saudi buddies.
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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    If the plan was to take out the sponsors, he would have attacked his Saudi buddies.
    Governments that sponsored terrorism, not individuals, although, he did try to get some of those through various channels. Do you have any evidence at all that the Saudi government sponsors terrorism?
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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    How does it help Iran?

    The Sunni leadership of Saddam was anathema to Iran, and Iraq had a large military that had been used to attack Iran. Now Iraq is Shiite leadership, the same as Iran, so they are in overall agreement. Iraq's military is no longer a perceived threat under current circumstances and they are friendly. Pretty much allies.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, I have. Likely less would have died. We wouldn't have paid so much for little. And the movement that was building in Iran wouldn't have been slowed by our reckless act.
    Yeah, because everything in Iraq was working out fine. The country had been totally destroyed by Saddam, all social capital wiped out. Rape had been institutionalized. Further mass starvation or another genocide was imminent. But hey, I'm sure everything would have been just peachy keen.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Oh and hey, just because his sons raped hundreds of high-school children, pulled the girls out of class, taking them to the rape palaces, passing them along to their cronies and then killing them...

    Well, that's no reason to believe that they would not have been progressive individuals ushering in a new era of Iraqi enlightenment.



    Believing that things would have been ok in Iraq is totally disconnected from reality, even if we ignore the possibility of Iran invading and annexing Iraq.
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