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Thread: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No one?

    What about Iran, Kuwait, Kurds, Marsh Arabs, coalition aircraft, women, children...

    The real question is who didn't Saddam attack.
    Iran - Yep, he did that. We attacked Mexico at one time too.

    Kuwait - The Kuwaiti's were using horizontal drilling techniques to tap into Iraqi oil fields, stealing Iraqi oil, and the Iraqi's knew it. Add that into a broke Iraqi national treasury, and the opinion that Kuwait was the 19th province of Iraq, and you have a takeover waiting to happen.

    Marsh Arabs and Kurds were always trod upon. The Turks still look down upon their own Kurdish population and regularly pursue them into northern Iraq.

    Coalition Aircraft? - What would happen if foreign combat aircraft were flying in US airspace? Hello....self-defense.

    Women, children - Yep, wimminz and chill'un's most affected. I'm surprised that you didn't mention tribal animosities.

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    How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ford289HiPo View Post
    Iran - Yep, he did that. We attacked Mexico at one time too.

    Kuwait - The Kuwaiti's were using horizontal drilling techniques to tap into Iraqi oil fields, stealing Iraqi oil, and the Iraqi's knew it. Add that into a broke Iraqi national treasury, and the opinion that Kuwait was the 19th province of Iraq, and you have a takeover waiting to happen.

    Marsh Arabs and Kurds were always trod upon. The Turks still look down upon their own Kurdish population and regularly pursue them into northern Iraq.

    Coalition Aircraft? - What would happen if foreign combat aircraft were flying in US airspace? Hello....self-defense.

    Women, children - Yep, wimminz and chill'un's most affected. I'm surprised that you didn't mention tribal animosities.
    Self defense? They were under a ceasefire. Why isn't that clear to you?

    Saddam agreed to no fly zones and when Schwartzkopf gave an exemption he used the opportunity to attack his own people.
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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ford289HiPo View Post
    Iran - Yep, he did that. We attacked Mexico at one time too.

    Kuwait - The Kuwaiti's were using horizontal drilling techniques to tap into Iraqi oil fields, stealing Iraqi oil, and the Iraqi's knew it. Add that into a broke Iraqi national treasury, and the opinion that Kuwait was the 19th province of Iraq, and you have a takeover waiting to happen.

    Marsh Arabs and Kurds were always trod upon. The Turks still look down upon their own Kurdish population and regularly pursue them into northern Iraq.

    Coalition Aircraft? - What would happen if foreign combat aircraft were flying in US airspace? Hello....self-defense.

    Women, children - Yep, wimminz and chill'un's most affected. I'm surprised that you didn't mention tribal animosities.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    That Ford 289 Hi Po was a great little engine. Sometimes when one communes with ostriches and forgets to wash the sand out of their eyes, they become discombobbled. Happens frequently on this forum and is really fun to watch. Like the zoo, you're not supposed to feed the animals, but sometimes it's hard to resist.
    At this point, you have completely abandoned the topic of your thread and gone into flat-out pandering and name calling.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Ho Chi Minhs people brutalized south Vietnamese. When we bailed on them it was far worse for them. Our mistake was not our presence in Vietnam, it was that we didnt engage the war to defeat the enemy. The error was political, tactical. We should not have been there if our intent was to not defeat the enemy and you dont defeat an enemy like North Vietnam by fighting a fight by their rules. Glad you made it home safe, but seriously dood SIDE with Minh??? You realize how many south Vietnamese people he slaughtered on his way to taking over the country...right? **** dood...considering your zeal for Minh you must have had a hard on thinking about Saddam.

    How many people would have died in a Vietnamese war had Minh decided to stay his ass in North Vietnam?
    Uh.....he's right, you know. We were the invaders in a civil war that was brought on by the desire to keep France in NATO. Ho was doing what any government would do, keep his country (and his political power base) in one piece. He also wanted US support to do it.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Self defense? They were under a ceasefire. Why isn't that clear to you?

    Saddam agreed to no fly zones and when Schwartzkopf gave an exemption he used the opportunity to attack his own people.
    I see you have a pseudo-sounding Arabic name tag, but how much time have you actually spent in the region? I was there for over 3 years.

    Here's a simple fact - Arabs will use any "agreement" to their own benefit. Arabs will lie for their own benefit.
    When Saddam attacked his own people, the Kurds were armed and marching marching south. They wanted US assistance to topple Saddam in '91, but we refused. Saddam used the opportunity to take out the opposition.
    Why aren't you complaining about the Turkish invasion of Iraqi Kurdistan during the same period, where the Turks razed villages of women and children?

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ford289HiPo View Post
    Here's a simple fact - Arabs will use any "agreement" to their own benefit. Arabs will lie for their own benefit.
    What kind of racist crap is that?

    Why aren't you complaining about the Turkish invasion of Iraqi Kurdistan during the same period, where the Turks razed villages of women and children?
    Because this thread is about Iraq and Saddam.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    /facepalm
    Don't do that too hard. Remember, Slick Willy used Iraq as a target of convenience when he dropped cruise missiles on Baghdad to cover for his indiscretions in the WH.

    Look up Operation Desert Fox.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ford289HiPo View Post
    Don't do that too hard. Remember, Slick Willy used Iraq as a target of convenience when he dropped cruise missiles on Baghdad to cover for his indiscretions in the WH.

    Look up Operation Desert Fox.
    That's not why.

    I was 27, I remember it just fine.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What kind of racist crap is that?
    Oh, the race card. It won't work. That is they way they operate in that region. It's their culture.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Because this thread is about Iraq and Saddam.
    Yep. Saddam was the leader of the only secular country in the region. Women were looked upon as equals. Saddam was effectively holding together a country that had been cobbled together by the British post WW-1. Saddam WAS a known quantity in the region. We knew him. We could quantify his actions.
    Now, we have nothing but a huge black hole that will eventually break off and be absorbed by Iran and Syria, the exception is Kurdistan. They seem to be doing pretty good for themselves at the moment...until the Turks pounce on them again.

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