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Thread: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    The original name of the operation was Operation Iraqi Liberation.... but then they thought about it and decided you can't have an acronym that states the obvious....


    This is one of the better things I have seen on the body count:

    The Iraq War: Ten Years in Ten Numbers - By Neta C. Crawford | The Middle East Channel

    ...and, yes, it was a Bush elective war. It is on his record... for those that think you can whine away Bush's miserable record arguing that it is something we all should forget because Obama has his own problems...
    I followed the link. It's depressing to know the Iraqi facts, past or present.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Which people were those...the 13000 he slaughtered in 1960? The 750 or so that were kidnapped never to be seen again? The 15, South Vietnamese civilians he had killed by 1965 or the 46,000 that had been kidnapped? Oh...Imsure there are a lot of people that he thought was swell...and probably a lot that thought...well...not so much. Minh...Saddam...hell you add Pol Pot you could have yourself a helluva golfing foursome. The stories you could share...
    Minh, Saddam, Pol Pot and GWBush, first nosepicker.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Minh, Saddam, Pol Pot and GWBush, first nosepicker.
    Thems your boyz. And for the record...you must think JFK and Johnson were ****in Satan...right?

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War? "And when respondents were asked in a different poll (AP/Ipsos, 2/12/07-2/15/07) to give their "best guess" about civilian deaths, 24 percent chose the option of 1,001 to 5,000 deaths.
    These answers are, of course, way off the mark. Estimates of the death toll range from about 174,000 (Iraq Body Count, 3/19/13) to over a million (Opinion Business Research, cited in Congressional Research Service, 10/7/10). Even at the times of those U.S. polls, death estimates were far beyond the public's estimates." "
    And when they are, they could be a massive undercount. A December 1, 2011CBS Evening News report told viewers that "more than 50,000 Iraqi civilians were killed in the war" (FAIR Action Alert, 12/2/11). This figure was sourced to iCasualties.org, which had one of the lowest estimates of civilian casualties at the time and warned readers that the number was probably a severe undercount.
    The "corrected" figure that CBS put forth 11 days later was 115,676 civilians killed, and sourced to Iraq Body Count–still one of the most conservative estimates to be found (FAIR Activism Update, 12/13/11)." Does this huge discrepancy reflect poorly on our Major Media for lack of reporting? Is it OK for the USA to kill 100,000 to 1,000,000 Iraqis so it's not really news. It's OK, they died because of a figmentary WMD causation. Who gives a rat's ass.
    Why exactly should I care? The ****ing bastard threatened at shot as us, even right before the invasion, so why should I give a damn how many Iraqi's died to take him and his boys out? I'm alive, he's dead, sounds like a fair price on a good deal to me.
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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Why exactly should I care? The ****ing bastard threatened at shot as us, even right before the invasion, so why should I give a damn how many Iraqi's died to take him and his boys out? I'm alive, he's dead, sounds like a fair price on a good deal to me.

    You should care because it was a "war of choice" not a defense against a threat or attack. The dead are still dead and We, the USA people are the fingers on the triggers. We took the war to Iraq and Iraq presented no threat, although it does have lots of feedstock for those Tejas refineries. OIL, me bucko, Black Gold and that's a damn good reason to attack and wipeout those slimy, no-good, usin' up my oxygen Iraqis. War is good bidness, and bidness is good, eh? I'm speakin' Texican there.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    After looking at this chart, it seems to me that if oil was all we wanted, why don't we just invade Canada and seize it. That seems to me to be a lot easier than engaging in a war half way around the world. Maybe we should ask those who are convinced our only interest in Iraq was the oil that question.
    Exactly. IF oil was a reason, it certainly wasn't the only reason or even the main reason.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    You should care because it was a "war of choice" not a defense against a threat or attack. The dead are still dead and We, the USA people are the fingers on the triggers. We took the war to Iraq and Iraq presented no threat, although it does have lots of feedstock for those Tejas refineries. OIL, me bucko, Black Gold and that's a damn good reason to attack and wipeout those slimy, no-good, usin' up my oxygen Iraqis. War is good bidness, and bidness is good, eh? I'm speakin' Texican there.
    Technically, all wars are wars of choice. You have rejected the reason that Saddam violated the terms of the cease fire and since we were there to enforce the cease fire, what would you have suggested? I hope you will answer that question and not drop into more annoying accented English typing. This isn't an audio medium.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Right...but admitting that the vast majority of Iraqis killed have been killed by Islamic terrorists (errrrr...insurgents) wouldnt play well with the cool kids. Even thought the Iraqis wrote and voted on their own constitution, elected their own government and were supported in training their police, military, and rebuilding their infrastructure and given at least a real shot at democracy, and even though the people killing Iraqis are Islamic extremists...its still and always the eeeeeevil Bush's fault. And we will continue to be given threads like this as long as Obama continues to look like **** and people like the OP feel the need to divert attention from the current goings on.
    Definitely seems like there is an ulterior motive to just bring this up out of the blue.

    Insurgents probably killed more Iraqis than all the allies combined.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Exactly. IF oil was a reason, it certainly wasn't the only reason or even the main reason.
    I think oil was (and is) an important consideration. Without it, the West would be responsible for paying for all the nation building. It's much more efficient to start with countries that can fund their own development to some extent.

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    re: How Many Iraqis Died in the Iraq War?[W:496]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I think oil was (and is) an important consideration. Without it, the West would be responsible for paying for all the nation building. It's much more efficient to start with countries that can fund their own development to some extent.
    I agree that it was a consideration perhaps, but not the main reason for starting war IMO.

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