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    Re: Th War On War On Atheism

    As a kid when I was forced to go to Church it was described as a war.

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    Re: Th War On War On Atheism

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    In the US? No. There is no war on atheism. There is no war on Christmas. Is there prejudice against atheists? Sure. In some places in the States it is fairly rampant. In other places it isn’t given a second thought. But I wouldn’t call it a war, even in a metaphorical sense.

    However, outside of the US? I am currently living in a country where people are rotting away in prison for being atheists. It is actually a fairly tolerant country when it comes to religions. Christian AND Muslim holidays are celebrated equally and recognized as government holidays. But if you publically espouse being an atheist you risk being dragged away from your home and being thrown in jail. Is there a “war” on atheism here? Definitely.
    this is what gets me when american atheists speak about being "persecuted" due to some old bird giving them dirty looks.

    Seriously, stop being such an emo-bitch

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    Re: Th War On War On Atheism

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    I think after century after century of religious domination...I think that it's laughable that religions and their followers are intimidated by atheists. Just because atheists are standing up and saying that religion and government don't mix...isn't reason to get all upset. The reality is: government and religion don't mix.
    Why on earth would you view the separation of church and state an "atheist" movement?

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    Re: Th War On War On Atheism

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Why on earth would you view the separation of church and state an "atheist" movement?
    Well, DC, you are absolutely gonna hate my reply.

    Atheism isn't a movement engaging in any movements that I'm aware of. Nor was the concept and/or application/practice of separation of church and state created by a movement. And certainly it wasn't conceived by a make-believe-atheist-movement which you just introduced as the premise of your post.

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    Re: Th War On War On Atheism

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Well, DC, you are absolutely gonna hate my reply.
    1) I have told you numerous times I am an atheist.

    2) YOU characterized it as an "atheist movement"

    you wrote, and I directly quoted you as writing, "I think after century after century of religious domination...I think that it's laughable that religions and their followers are intimidated by atheists. Just because atheists are standing up and saying that religion and government don't mix...isn't reason to get all upset."

    3) you could certainly say that there was a"movement" out of the enlightenment that supported the separation of church and state, with it's popularization via the writings of Locke

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    Re: Th War On War On Atheism

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    this is what gets me when american atheists speak about being "persecuted" due to some old bird giving them dirty looks.

    Seriously, stop being such an emo-bitch
    No, it's really more things like Christians trying to make laws to restrict our behavior, or Christian judges ruling that atheists are unfit parents in child custody cases, or that 7 state constitutions explicitly ban atheists from holding public office, and even those that don't, twisted religious bigotry will keep atheists from winning elections.

    But by all means, keep turning a blind eye to the suffering of your fellow people.
    Liberté. Égalité. Fraternité.

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    Re: Th War On War On Atheism

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    1) I have told you numerous times I am an atheist.

    2) YOU characterized it as an "atheist movement"

    you wrote, and I directly quoted you as writing, "I think after century after century of religious domination...I think that it's laughable that religions and their followers are intimidated by atheists. Just because atheists are standing up and saying that religion and government don't mix...isn't reason to get all upset."

    3) you could certainly say that there was a"movement" out of the enlightenment that supported the separation of church and state, with it's popularization via the writings of Locke
    DC...Standing up publicly and defending one's rights...isn't a movement. And Locke was a smart man, but often contradicted himself. I admire some of this philosophies. He was dedicated to his religion.

    At any rate...think what you will about my post. But, DC I still disagree with your perceptions.

    Religious domination, torture, murdering sprees...etc...and now they crybaby about atheists advocating for their rights be equally protected under the law and that religious influence no longer reigns over private citizens via peddling it through government. What's the big deal?

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    Re: Th War On War On Atheism

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    or that 7 state constitutions explicitly ban atheists from holding public office
    Just to address one example, these laws are hardly even relevant today (and that might be a generous view). being that such tests were ruled unconstitutional by the supreme court back in the 60's. They simply exist on the books


    But by all means, keep turning a blind eye to the suffering of your fellow people.
    Don't worry, Pasch, I'm sure every time some old bird wishes you Merry X-mas a kitten weeps.

    Stay strong, brother

    twisted religious bigotry will keep atheists from winning elections.
    lol, no one needs to like or accept what you believe. And surely people simply not liking what you have to say on the subject of religion comes nowhere close to approaching any real notion of persecution or suffering.
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    Re: Th War On War On Atheism

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Religious domination, torture, murdering sprees...etc...and now they crybaby about atheists advocating for their rights be equally protected under the law and that religious influence no longer reigns over private citizens via peddling it through government. What's the big deal?
    lol~!!! How do you get that from me questioning the notion that secular govt is an atheist movement? And further more, how would such a question even imply that I supported anything even akin to a religious state or the various other pieces of **** you decided to fling my way?

    You literally do not make sense

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    Re: Th War On War On Atheism

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    lol~!!! How do you get that from me questioning the notion that secular govt is an atheist movement? And further more, how would such a question even imply that I supported anything even akin to a religious state or the various other pieces of **** you decided to fling my way?

    You literally do not make sense
    DC...you have trouble making sense of a lot of posters.

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