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Thread: Edward Snowden - Jail, or a Parade?

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    Re: Edward Snowden - Jail, or a Parade?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The US Mail is not protected by Constitution, at least the founders didn't believe so. In fact, that's how we caught Benedict Arnold - agents of the proto-government intercepted and read his mail. Quite a lot of that was done in the beginning years of our nation.
    There was a lot which was done in the beginning years of our nation which was blatantly unconstitutional.

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    Re: Edward Snowden - Jail, or a Parade?

    Jail. The actions he felt so strongly opposed to were sanctioned through legal means, his disclosure of them was not.

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    Re: Edward Snowden - Jail, or a Parade?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    It violates the the Fourth Amendment and Supreme Court precedent. It's an "unreasonable" search and seizure. The Court has ruled that monitoring a private conversation constitutes a search, and therefore, requires a warrant. So, warrantless surveillance of millions of American citizens is unconstitutional.
    The SCOTUS has never ruled that Americans cannot be spied upon. They have ruled that "monitoring a private conversation constitutes a search, and therefore, requires a warrant", you are correct in that. Of course, in light of the founding government's own behavior the decision was just another SCOTUS rewrite of the Constitution. Regardless, the issue at hand in this thread is a warranted search.

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    Re: Edward Snowden - Jail, or a Parade?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Jail. The actions he felt so strongly opposed to were sanctioned through legal means, his disclosure of them was not.
    Agreed, and this sort of case is precisely what the Executive power of clemency is all about. He should be convicted and given clemency.

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    Re: Edward Snowden - Jail, or a Parade?

    I am shocked that there a select number of senators are saying that this person should be tried for treason.

    This guy is a hero.

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    Re: Edward Snowden - Jail, or a Parade?

    Quote Originally Posted by zstep18 View Post
    I am shocked that there a select number of senators are saying that this person should be tried for treason.

    This guy is a hero.
    Do you just keep repeating the same thing over and over, even when presented with facts?
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    Re: Edward Snowden - Jail, or a Parade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Well, isn't that unfortunate. My ability to care is seriously lacking..
    Well perhaps that is because it is not your job to protect your fellow citizens, and cannot be held responsible if you fail to do so.

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    Re: Edward Snowden - Jail, or a Parade?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Do you just keep repeating the same thing over and over, even when presented with facts?
    1.) When did I repeat that I was shocked that senators are wanting to try this guy for treason?
    2.) When did I repeat that this guy was a hero?

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    Re: Edward Snowden - Jail, or a Parade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanstantine View Post
    You gave permission to the NSA to spy on your international cellphone calls?
    Broadly, nigh on everything I do, from my electronic communications to my sexual habits are subject to potential monitoring.

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    Re: Edward Snowden - Jail, or a Parade?

    I'm leaning somewhat toward parade, but still not certain of all the facts.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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