View Poll Results: What is/was your rank/grade

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    11 40.74%
  • E7

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  • E8

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  • E9

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  • W1-W5

    1 3.70%
  • O1-O3

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Thread: Military folks, what is your rank?

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    Re: Military folks, what is your rank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    The requirements for your Technical WO program seem similar to ours, though you can get away with a few less years if you meet the rank requirement. In my particular MOS I ahd to get the written recommendations of two senior warrants in my field. I do think the way the Marines and Navy do it is better, though. A warrant is supposed to be a subject matter expert so there is an advantage in selecting from, say, E-7s.

    I think the culture of the Army recruiting warrants earlier on comes from our aviator program. Most Army aviators are warrant officers and they like their pilots young, so there is no rank or time in service requirement for the aviator program. Hell, we even have what we call “high school to flight school” warrants. You think a senior NCO gets annoyed at having to salute sum 23 year old butter bar? What about saluting a 19 year old spot? Fortunately they just fly and don’t command, though. But I think to an extent that culture has carried over into the non-aviator warrant fields as well.
    Do Army WO's have an equivalent to a commissioned officers rank like in the Marines and can Army WO's switch over to that equivalent rank like Marine WO's ?
    When I first met Capt. Dale Dye ( the best military advisor in Hollywood, Saving Private Ryan, Flags of my Father, The Pacific, Platoon, etc.) he told me he was a Marine WO and some where during his career he switched over to his equivalent, Captain. I believe a Marine Chief Warrant Officer is equal to a Major.

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    Re: Military folks, what is your rank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Sergeant, E-5 type. Currently thinking about going "O."
    It has its advantages and disadvantages. Between NCO, Warrant, and Commissioned, Commissioned officers have the least control over their careers. You typically aren’t even guaranteed which branch (i.e. Infantry, Quarter Master, AG) you will get. And then within that branch your assignment s will vary tremendously through various types of staff jobs in between actual commands. But of course the money and quality of life are better. Except for Lieutenants. Lieutenants are treated like sh!t by the chain of command.

    If leading troops is what you really enjoy, though, nothing beats being an NCO. And if you like your particular field and just want to focus on that field, warrant is a good bet. Good luck with whatever you decide.

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    Re: Military folks, what is your rank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    I agree, the specialist ranks back then were confusing. Though I have to say, I don’t necessarily think that having a career path in the military, such as a career Specialist in which one just focuses on doing a particular job but never takes on higher leadership roles, is a bad thing. I have known Army mechanics who were damn good mechanics but who should NOT be leading soldiers. Why force them to move up to the NCO ranks or get out? Why not just let them keep fixing vehicles if that is what they excel at?
    That's the way it use to be before the all volunteer military. What is it, passed up three times for promotion and your out ?
    I remember what were called career privates. Damn good Marines in the field but either screwed up in garrison or just lacked leadership ability. 1969 and a combat vet of Korea who served with Chesty Puller and was only a L/Cpl.

    Came across a highly respected Marine Captain company commander in Nam, who landed on the beaches of Iwo Jima 23 years before. One of the best company grade officers but I guess he wouldn't have been as good as a field grade officer. Maybe he was just smart and knew how to keep away from sitting at a desk ?

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    Re: Military folks, what is your rank?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Do Army WO's have an equivalent to a commissioned officers rank like in the Marines and can Army WO's switch over to that equivalent rank like Marine WO's ?
    When I first met Capt. Dale Dye ( the best military advisor in Hollywood, Saving Private Ryan, Flags of my Father, The Pacific, Platoon, etc.) he told me he was a Marine WO and some where during his career he switched over to his equivalent, Captain. I believe a Marine Chief Warrant Officer is equal to a Major.
    Technically speaking, a warrant officer is a “commissioned officer” once they make W2. W1s have a warrant from the SECDEF. W2s and after have a commission from the POTUS, just like traditional commissioned officers. But “commissioned warrant officer” is a mouthful I guess.

    But I get what you are saying. I don’t know all the details but to go from warrant to commissioned isn’t that straightforward any more. I do know warrant officers who switch over are exempt from portions of OCS. And I do know if I switched over to the commissioned side I would not have to start back over at O1, but I am not sure where they would start me. A warrant officer and a commissioned officer have very different jobs, though. Although one interesting bit of trivia is that in Special Forces, warrant officers are often XOs.

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    Re: Military folks, what is your rank?

    Left the Army as an E-7.....Combat Veteran/ 2 Tours. Volunteered and was not Drafted.

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    Re: Military folks, what is your rank?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Left the Army as an E-7.....Combat Veteran/ 2 Tours. Volunteered and was not Drafted.
    I just gotta say this is kinda funny. When I reach E-7 (if not this year, then within the next 2), due to my rate, I will be an MMC in the Navy.
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    Re: Military folks, what is your rank?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I just gotta say this is kinda funny. When I reach E-7 (if not this year, then within the next 2), due to my rate, I will be an MMC in the Navy.
    Heya RN. Is that MasterChief? I thought E7 in the Navy was a Chief Petty Officer.

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    Re: Military folks, what is your rank?

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Left the Army as an E-7.....Combat Veteran/ 2 Tours. Volunteered and was not Drafted.
    And welcome home MMC if I haven't already said it.

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    Re: Military folks, what is your rank?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I just gotta say this is kinda funny. When I reach E-7 (if not this year, then within the next 2), due to my rate, I will be an MMC in the Navy.

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    Re: Military folks, what is your rank?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    And welcome home MMC if I haven't already said it.
    Thank You my cuzin.....Same to you and I AM HONORED to know You and All that made it Home.

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