View Poll Results: Should the Patriot Act be allowed to expire?

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Thread: Should the Patriot Act be allowed to expire?

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    Re: Should the Patriot Act be allowed to expire?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is amusing to me that those crying about the Patriot Act are the ones who cry loudest when there is a terrorist attack. Of course, simple solutions appeal to people who do not understand all of what they speak of. The Patriot Act is a large, complex piece of legislature which does alot of things. Some are flat out good(enhanced border security and investigative power for the INS for example). Some not so much. What should happen is it should be improved, not some knee jerk reaction that the same people calling for would be the ones complaining loudest about ramifications of it expiring.
    it amuses me that you make stuff up all the time

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    Re: Should the Patriot Act be allowed to expire?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    The Patriot Act currently lasts for another couple of years, requiring Congressional action to continue it. Should it be continued or allowed to expire?

    (I'm intentionally not creating the "Repeal it now" option; I'm assuming that Congress and the president are very unlikely to do that.)
    As long as it's not replaced with something worse.
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    Re: Should the Patriot Act be allowed to expire?

    Quote Originally Posted by Indeed View Post
    As long as it's not replaced with something worse.

    The Patriot Act, another legacy of the first moron, GWBush. It's demise should be accelerated, not allowed to expire. Truth be told is that the gov't never gives back any power it has taken and it's taken lots of power with the Patriot Act. We're screwed!

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    Re: Should the Patriot Act be allowed to expire?

    the wording of the options makes me unable to vote, but in my opinion, yes, it should be allowed to expire. whatever replaces it should have a lot more oversight and transparency.

    i understand how total information awareness really helps catch terrorists, but i just don't see it as being compatible with the Bill of Rights, and i see a big potential for abuse. perhaps there's another course of action where we can split the difference and resolve the constitutional issues.

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    Re: Should the Patriot Act be allowed to expire?

    Terrorism is a minor threat in the world, and is unworthy of such drastic measures. There are much greater threats to our lives and safety than Jihadists that we could focus our attention on. What we eat kills us a lot more than any terrorist ever could. And to echo was is posted above, the bill of rights and our constitutional protections far supersede the desire for safety from this minor threat.
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    Re: Should the Patriot Act be allowed to expire?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Terrorism is a minor threat in the world, and is unworthy of such drastic measures. There are much greater threats to our lives and safety than Jihadists that we could focus our attention on. What we eat kills us a lot more than any terrorist ever could. And to echo was is posted above, the bill of rights and our constitutional protections far supersede the desire for safety from this minor threat.
    Terrorism... fear, in general... is a great vehicle to accumulate power.
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    Re: Should the Patriot Act be allowed to expire?

    The Patriot Act paved the way for the current NSA scandal we are going through. While I do not support the Obama Administration, I do not support the Patriot Act either. The United States can fight terrorism without infringing on our rights.
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