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    Re: Crazy idea. Do you agree with it?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If he's a hero, he won't go to jail. If it's legal? He should spend a good 20 years there. You rolls the dice, you takes your chances. We need more heros. But not at the expense of our security.
    And our security cannot come at the expense of our liberty. I wish we had more brave patriots willing to expose the depths of government aggression.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Crazy idea. Do you agree with it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    That's nice, but he didn't complain when they put treason as a punishable offense in the Constitution. Because that's what this is. Treason.
    Treason is what the government has been doing to us. This was nothing more than exposing government's sins against the People. It is The People who are the true sovereigns in this Republic, not the government.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Crazy idea. Do you agree with it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And our security cannot come at the expense of our liberty. I wish we had more brave patriots willing to expose the depths of government aggression.
    Sometimes brave patriots die. Sometimes they go to jail. We can't have people who are pledged to secrecy revealing top secret information because they believe it's illegal without there being consequences for doing so.
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    Re: Crazy idea. Do you agree with it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Here is another crazy idea: how about we actually expect people to obey the laws of the country they choose to live in.
    If those laws are just and respect the rights and liberties of the individual, then the government can expect compliance.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Crazy idea. Do you agree with it?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Sometimes brave patriots die. Sometimes they go to jail. We can't have people who are pledged to secrecy revealing top secret information because they believe it's illegal without there being consequences for doing so.
    I would say that's entirely dependent upon the information given out. If it's actually illegal or is significant breach of government powers, then he has done service to the Republic and while maybe a "traitor" to the government, he'd be a hero to The People. And ultimately it is The People, not the government, the Republic is meant to serve.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Crazy idea. Do you agree with it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Laws are an extention of the will of the very people you refer to. Anarchy does not work very well in the real world.
    No, it is the will of the government. In a properly constrained government the will of the People and the will of the government are the same. However, as a government becomes unbound, those two start to deviate significantly.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Crazy idea. Do you agree with it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Maybe instead of arresting people for treason that reveal wrong doings in the government we can celebrate them as patriots and tell the government to leave them the hell alone.
    I know, I'm sick of this (and all) governments treating criminals like criminals!

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    Re: Crazy idea. Do you agree with it?

    Quote Originally Posted by babilfish View Post
    I know, I'm sick of this (and all) governments treating criminals like criminals!
    Less the government itself is the criminal. Government doesn't treat itself as a criminal.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: Crazy idea. Do you agree with it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Less the government itself is the criminal.
    Didn't know there was a person named government who could be charged with crimes.

    Unless your alleging there are government officials who are acting in a criminal manner and who aren't being prosecuted for it?

    Which you would have evidence for, of course?

    Government doesn't treat itself as a criminal.
    Nope, government never do. Government just treat criminals like criminals.

    Hehe.

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    Re: Crazy idea. Do you agree with it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Maybe you should understand that no government is trustworthy. There is a reason to consider that my day to day activities are of their concern and no reason to trust them with any sort of private information.
    Maybe you should understand that trusting terrorists more than government is alot less trustworthy.
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