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Thread: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    I think you and I are the only people on this thread to neither be gay nor ever think that we were gay.
    Well me personally, and I don't how it is for you, I see 'gay' (that is the sexy sexual act of homosexicalness) as being a fetish/kink that some people enjoy a little, some people enjoy a lot, some people are neither here nor there, and are completely turned off by it.

    I can't BE a kink, only be INTO it. You wouldn't say someone who indulges in buttsecks is an Anal. Though some of them can be. The terminology is what throws me off most I think. I guess since it's such a 'popular' fetish and the fact that gay was already and adjective, it easily transitioned into a description of a person rather than a description of a kink. Do I think we need to rename the entire debate? Yes. The debate is about Same-Sex Marriage, as some people already call it, and it's dealing with (hopefully) two people connecting on a far deeper level than a sexual one.

    But, I'm rambling and someone's probably going to take issue with what I've written so I'm gonna stop for now.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Well me personally, and I don't how it is for you, I see 'gay' (that is the sexy sexual act of homosexicalness) as being a fetish/kink that some people enjoy a little, some people enjoy a lot, some people are neither here nor there, and are completely turned off by it.

    I can't BE a kink, only be INTO it. You wouldn't say someone who indulges in buttsecks is an Anal. Though some of them can be. The terminology is what throws me off most I think. I guess since it's such a 'popular' fetish and the fact that gay was already and adjective, it easily transitioned into a description of a person rather than a description of a kink. Do I think we need to rename the entire debate? Yes. The debate is about Same-Sex Marriage, as some people already call it, and it's dealing with (hopefully) two people connecting on a far deeper level than a sexual one.

    But, I'm rambling and someone's probably going to take issue with what I've written so I'm gonna stop for now.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicDude86 View Post
    Well me personally, and I don't how it is for you, I see 'gay' (that is the sexy sexual act of homosexicalness) as being a fetish/kink that some people enjoy a little, some people enjoy a lot, some people are neither here nor there, and are completely turned off by it.

    I can't BE a kink, only be INTO it. You wouldn't say someone who indulges in buttsecks is an Anal. Though some of them can be. The terminology is what throws me off most I think. I guess since it's such a 'popular' fetish and the fact that gay was already and adjective, it easily transitioned into a description of a person rather than a description of a kink. Do I think we need to rename the entire debate? Yes. The debate is about Same-Sex Marriage, as some people already call it, and it's dealing with (hopefully) two people connecting on a far deeper level than a sexual one.

    But, I'm rambling and someone's probably going to take issue with what I've written so I'm gonna stop for now.
    Dude, you are putting an EPIC amount of thought into this.....
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Being gay is not just being into gay sex.
    There is also a lot of gaiety involved.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Being gay is not just being into gay sex.
    I'm going to start phasing out 'homosexual' from the term gay. NO LONGER shall gay mean Homosexual AND Happy AND be a derogatory remark (i.e. That's so gay!). Now it simply shall mean Happy OR a derogatory remark.


    I will henceforth try and remember to call Homosexuals, Homosexuals. or Homosexisauruses.


    EDIT: Gay Sex = Happy Sex (or really bad sex i.e. That was gay!). End of discussion. I am not changing my viewpoint on this.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Just to comment on this with my own bit of personal dirt. When I was 7, my mother came to the realization she was gay, and her and my father divorced. I handled this poorly, and ended up in counseling. The psychiatrist was convinced I was gay as well. This led to a lot of confusion for a few years, till I came to the realization that no, really I am not. I know where her confusion came from, but this does not change the fact that just because psychiatrists or psychologists or councilors think something does not make it right. They are human and make mistakes too.
    Stuff like this pisses me off. No counselor, psychologist, psychiatrist or any mental health professional is qualified to make that determination. Since sexual orientation is NOT a disorder, no one can determine that but you. It's like someone telling you, "Redress, you like cabbage...I don't care WHAT you say...your favorite food is cabbage."

    I've worked with many who presented as unsure of their sexual preference. My job is to encourage them to discuss that an explore issues surrounding sexuality in general. NOT to determine what someone's sexual orientation is. Mental health professionals such as these can do as much damage as folks practicing reparative therapy.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    For those of you that were mistreated, misdiagnosed, or who's counseling experience was either poor, or worsened things, I want to apologize for my profession. There are definitely some quacks out there. If anyone ever needs a counselor, shop around, talk to others who have seen someone they like, or talk to your personal physician.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Stuff like this pisses me off. No counselor, psychologist, psychiatrist or any mental health professional is qualified to make that determination. Since sexual orientation is NOT a disorder, no one can determine that but you. It's like someone telling you, "Redress, you like cabbage...I don't care WHAT you say...your favorite food is cabbage."

    I've worked with many who presented as unsure of their sexual preference. My job is to encourage them to discuss that an explore issues surrounding sexuality in general. NOT to determine what someone's sexual orientation is. Mental health professionals such as these can do as much damage as folks practicing reparative therapy.
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    For those of you that were mistreated, misdiagnosed, or who's counseling experience was either poor, or worsened things, I want to apologize for my profession. There are definitely some quacks out there. If anyone ever needs a counselor, shop around, talk to others who have seen someone they like, or talk to your personal physician.
    If I could, I'd thank these two posts a thousand times.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    That's like thirty pages back, not 1 or 2....
    I don't have time to read it all, but at a quick glance it appears to be some sort of proven genetic mutation, I'll read it later....
    Your loss. It was a good post.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    For those of you that were mistreated, misdiagnosed, or who's counseling experience was either poor, or worsened things, I want to apologize for my profession. There are definitely some quacks out there. If anyone ever needs a counselor, shop around, talk to others who have seen someone they like, or talk to your personal physician.
    I was married to one, didn't have a clue at home.
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