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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    I'm pretty shocked that people think it's ok to abort someone just because they may turn out to be gay.

    I wouldn't have thought it possible to see 22 people agreeing on genocide for gays.
    What has happened is a certain percentage of our population was born without any brains(no ability to think or reason), quite horrible, and its a very low percentage, and a good reason for abortion. Apparently, these people have congregated here.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by K-1 View Post
    Yes, I know many a flaming liberal that prefers the demure title of "centrist."
    Isn't there a smirk smiley anywhere? Which of the smileys denotes smirking? Yeah, I need that one.

    In any event, I haven't seen anything except specious social science that argues the idiocy of being born with homosexuality.
    Then you haven't looked. Studies with drosophilia indicate that a gene on the right arm of the third chromosome ironically called "fruitless", determines courtship patterns and sexuality. If there is such a gene in the drosophilia, it is not far fetched to believe that there is a similar compelling genetic factor in human sexuality.

    Since 1973, it has been accepted fact that certain compounds found in nature called "endocrine disruptors" play a a huge role in determining gender assignment in fish and other reptiles and also in influencing sexuality in greater cats in the wild. These endocrine disruptors are found in more heavy concentrations in the human food supply due to our use of artificial growth hormones and antibiotics.

    Further, twins studies consistently show a pattern of higher rates of homosexuality in identical twins than in fraternal twins, indicating a genetic factor.

    This "making the choice" of straightness is silly. I can choose to lead a homosexual lifestyle -- as many do.
    That's cool. I am glad you could decide at any time to go down to the local YMCA and getcha gay freak on if you wanted. I can't say that's true of most straight people I know. All the straight people I know would be physically and emotionally inhibited from hooking up with a member of the same sex, let alone living their lives attracted that way.

    That's becuase they are straight. But I'm glad you could choose to do otherwise.

    The reason why I don't is because it is disgusting,
    So are turnips.

    repulsive,
    So is ignorance.

    unnatural,
    Unnatural like that computer you are sitting there sending messages through space with? Well that's funny...I don't see you railing against that unnaturality. That's why appeal to nature is a logical fallacy.

    and frankly, the height of moral degeneracy.
    Oh this should be...enlightening. How is homosexuality any more morally degenerate than any other sex act that isn't undertaken strictly for procreation purposes?

    Straightness is natural
    As natural as automobiles, sun glasses, and blended fibers in your clothes?

    -- so I didn't choose to be straight.
    That's my point. You didn't choose to be straight. Sexuality is compelled by several factors...genetics being one of many.

    Homosexuality is unnatural,
    Unnatural like your microwave, airplanes barreling through the sky, and microphones that amplify sound when you hear a speech?

    therefore one has to rebel against nature (by active choice) to lead that lifestyle. It's really not that hard.
    So is wearing eye glasses and contacts, tempering metals, electricity, oil refinement, and plastic. I don't see you bitching about that rebellion against nature.

    So, yeah, it really does seem to be that hard for you to make a coherent argument here.

    Psst...that's because you are defending an irrational position.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Interesting, and I suspect that does come down to instinct, the need for territory for relatives, though I would not know for sure.

    Sarah Hrdy does talk alot about apes(it is her specialty) and has some fascinating stories about them. her first field work was with some apes where the males would commit infanticide, and she talks alot about the societies apes build. She does some great writing if you have not read her books.
    I'll have to grab some of them. Thanks!

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by K-1 View Post
    This topic is silly. People choose to be gay, they are not born gay.
    This comment is silly. You have no evidence of such. Until you present some, your opinion remains nothing but silliness.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by K-1 View Post
    The onus is not on me to back it up, the onus is on liberals to back up their foolhardy opinion that somehow homosexuality is congenital.
    You stated an opinion. The onus IS on you to back your assertion. If you can't, instead of grandstanding, just say, "sorry, but I have no evidence to back my foolhardy position...therefore pay no attention to it." That would suit your position on this quite accurately.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by K-1 View Post
    Yes, I know many a flaming liberal that prefers the demure title of "centrist."

    In any event, I haven't seen anything except specious social science that argues the idiocy of being born with homosexuality.

    This "making the choice" of straightness is silly. I can choose to lead a homosexual lifestyle -- as many do. The reason why I don't is because it is disgusting, repulsive, unnatural, and frankly, the height of moral degeneracy. Straightness is natural -- so I didn't choose to be straight. Homosexuality is unnatural, therefore one has to rebel against nature (by active choice) to lead that lifestyle. It's really not that hard.
    I was wrong. The comments you made aren't silly. They are ignorant and devoid of facts.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    This comment is silly. You have no evidence of such. Until you present some, your opinion remains nothing but silliness.
    Conversely, so is yours....

    You have no proof gay is not a choice.

    Being left handed is a birth issue. Allowing another male to push a blood engorged tube of his flesh into your rectum is a choice.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Conversely, so is yours....

    You have no proof gay is not a choice.

    Being left handed is a birth issue. Allowing another male to push a blood engorged tube of his flesh into your rectum is a choice.
    See...I didn't make any assertion one way or the other...please point out where I did if you can. My point is that his position is silly because it was presented with no substantiation. That's what I said.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by K-1 View Post
    This "making the choice" of straightness is silly. I can choose to lead a homosexual lifestyle -- as many do. The reason why I don't is because it is disgusting, repulsive, unnatural, and frankly, the height of moral degeneracy. Straightness is natural -- so I didn't choose to be straight. Homosexuality is unnatural, therefore one has to rebel against nature (by active choice) to lead that lifestyle. It's really not that hard.
    What an odd reasoning.

    That's not at all why I'm not gay. I don't think it's disgusting, repulsive, unnatural or any of those other weird reasons you give.

    I'm simply not attracted to women. I can't imagine anyone deliberately forcing themselves to be attracted to someone they're simply not attracted to. What purpose would that serve?
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    I love it when people say that homosexuality is unnatural, despite plenty of evidence that it happens in nature all the time. It always makes me think of some Lovecraftian monstrosity from beyond nature exerting it's malign influence on our world...to get penguins to have gaybuttsex.

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