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Thread: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

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    I take it you don't live in Southern California. I'm not going to focus on this subject though because it is not the basis of the thread.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by SpooK View Post
    Hrm. No documented research, just what you observed from reading on here -- however, it is because no one specifically said I dont think mcdonalds everyday is a healthy diet? I am not sure if you are aware of it, but if a child is being raised and their parents abuse them, the parent will lose the child. I dont see why pro-lifers need to make that statement for you to not associate us with feeling it is ok for a child to be raised by an alcoholic/abusive parent?
    Yes they are taken away but just to be thrown into group homes where they are worse off and are isolated or removed from family and friends. I've had two friends and cousin that went through this.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpooK
    The abortions shouldnt be used so freely? You just said a few posts ago that is acceptable to abort the baby no matter what the reason? Seems contradictary to me.
    Abortions should be limited so not to be used as a alternate birth control, which is not the majority anyway. I would wonder what the statistics are for a single person having more then one or two abortions in their life, other then those that financially depend on it as birth control.

    Abortions should be safe, legal, and unnecessary.

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    How is this related to abortion or this thread?
    Try reading the thread and you will see I was directly responding to someone.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The "might" is assumed in he question, and therefore is not an arguable point.
    The mere fact that the baby "might" be gay is enough for the mother.

    And just to get you past your point -- assume the mother finds out at 21 weeks that her baby has the gene, of the mother decides at 21 weeks that she doesnt want to take the chance.

    So, we're back to your propblem with someone dictating how someone else lives their life, and the mother doing exactly that.

    Given that -- how can she not have to defend her decision?
    It comes down to what is and what is not life. Is orgasming into a condom filled with spermicide killing potential future children? Where does life start? The fusion of the sperm and egg? When the fetus starts brain activity and is classified technically as human? When the baby is no longer dependent on the body of the mother?
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Yes they are taken away but just to be thrown into group homes where they are worse off and are isolated or removed from family and friends. I've had two friends and cousin that went through this.
    So they would be better off having no life at all than being raised in an orphanage or being adopted?

    Abortions should be limited so not to be used as a alternate birth control, which is not the majority anyway. I would wonder what the statistics are for a single person having more then one or two abortions in their life, other then those that financially depend on it as birth control.

    Abortions should be safe, legal, and unnecessary.
    There is a post on some stupid for mulitple abortions on the abortion thread. I thought you did say earlier in this post though, that a women should be able to get an abortion for whatever they want (it doesnt matter to you). It's their body their choice but now you want to limit it to not be used as an alternate birth control. I find that silly because abortion is just that - birth control.

    Try reading the thread and you will see I was directly responding to someone.
    I'm sorry, I re-read it.... still not related to the topic though.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    It comes down to what is and what is not life. Is orgasming into a condom filled with spermicide killing potential future children? Where does life start? The fusion of the sperm and egg? When the fetus starts brain activity and is classified technically as human? When the baby is no longer dependent on the body of the mother?
    Does it make a difference in this topic?

    To recap: You said that "...it is not my place or anyone else's to dictate to someone else how they should live their lives..."

    However, you also said that you would support a mother's decision to abort a fetus so that it isn't born and live a gay lifestyle.

    They contradict each other.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    It comes down to what is and what is not life
    No it doesn't.

    It comes down to, as you put it, that no one can dictate how someone else lives their life.

    In this case, the mother is dictating that the baby cannot be gay.

    YOU say that the mother cannot dictate this to the baby.

    Given that, how can she NOT have to defend her decision?

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Allright I'll just jump in here. First of all the entire premise of this topic is flawed, as firstly, being gay hasn't been proven to be genetic, and secondly, there's no way to tell if a child is gay in the womb anyways. I support a woman's right to choose and if she's willing to kill a life because of its sexual orientation, if she's that unAmerican and right-wing, than she should be able to.


    Now a question for you:

    If it were possible to determine a fetus' political beliefs, and you supported abortions (hey, I can created false premises as well as you can), would you allow a woman to abort a conservative fetus?
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Allright I'll just jump in here. First of all the entire premise of this topic is flawed, as firstly, being gay hasn't been proven to be genetic, and secondly, there's no way to tell if a child is gay in the womb anyways.
    Dont argue the givens.
    If Homosexualty is genetic, as many here argue, then the gene can be detected while in the womb.

    I support a woman's right to choose and if she's willing to kill a life because of its sexual orientation, if she's that unAmerican and right-wing, than she should be able to.
    You better re-phrase that.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skip View Post
    Allright I'll just jump in here. First of all the entire premise of this topic is flawed, as firstly, being gay hasn't been proven to be genetic, and secondly, there's no way to tell if a child is gay in the womb anyways.
    I believe that's what makes the topic hypothetical as it was clearly stated as such.

    I support a woman's right to choose and if she's willing to kill a life because of its sexual orientation, if she's that unAmerican and right-wing, than she should be able to.
    Ok, but I dont see how being on the right side is unamerican.

    Now a question for you:

    If it were possible to determine a fetus' political beliefs, and you supported abortions (hey, I can created false premises as well as you can), would you allow a woman to abort a conservative fetus?
    So basically you asking me if I didnt feel that abortion is wrong, and I was in favor of abortion, would I then choose to abort a conservative fetus? I dont see how I could pretend to be in favor of abortion and then discuss how I would feel about it in different circumstances.

    This is unlike the OP because he is not asking you to change your view.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    The very idea that a person would choose such a method to achieve a more "acceptable" child could only come from a very dark or very ignorant mind.
    This is happening all over the world today! There are countries where the populace has thrown off the balance of men and women by aborting or killing so many female babies. I agree that it is very ignorant, sick, and dark. However I find it interesting that it's okay for a woman to choose death for her child for no damn good reason at all and yet it's somehow more offensive apparently to you if she has a lame reason.

    When you get right down to it how is "I don't want a kid right now" any better or more moral than "I don't want a girl or any other trait"?

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