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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You might not like it Jall but he does have a point. Whole point of evolution is to evolve. The weak get's taken out and the strong survive. And a defective gene is a weakness.

    Only difference between evolution by nature and evolution by man is that one is involuntary, the other is voluntary.

    Of course a whole new arguement could be made on just what exactly is considered a defective gene. I know those that are born blind don't consider themselves defective so.... Heck they even have their own society.
    Evolution of the species is no longer dependent on every human being passing their genes.

    And there is nothing defective about the homosexual's ability to reproduce given that we have artificial insemination. From a purely logical perspective, there is nothing barring the homosexual from passing on his genes, even if it were a necessity for the evolutionary survival of the species.

    And considering the bulk of his arguments prior to now, I am sure you can overlook my natural lean toward suspicion of any argument he uses that has the word "defect" or anything like it present.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Nope, just look at it from an evolutionary perspective.

    Parents typically want their genes to survive the test of time, down through the generations.

    Parents also know that men who shoot their seed up the sewer pipe aren't likely to make babies that way.

    So it makes perfect evolutionary sense for parents to eliminate a known defective fetus that's less likely to demonstrate reproductive success before committing all the resources a full pregnancy and upbringing will consume. Raising a child to maturity is a huge investment and shouldn't be wasted on projects with a demonstrated smaller likelihood of success.
    This argument is such BS. It presupposes so many things that it makes no logical sense.
    It presupposes that straight people would never want to "waste" their seed and would want to spread as much of their seed as possible to preserve their genes. So straight people don't engage in oral sex, anal sex, masturbation, birth control, etc.
    Please....the human race is not the animal planet perpetuation of the species that you try to make in this argument.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Evolution of the species is no longer dependent on every human being passing their genes.

    And there is nothing defective about the homosexual's ability to reproduce given that we have artificial insemination. From a purely logical perspective, there is nothing barring the homosexual from passing on his genes, even if it were a necessity for the evolutionary survival of the species.

    And considering the bulk of his arguments prior to now, I am sure you can overlook my natural lean toward suspicion of any argument he uses that has the word "defect" or anything like it present.
    I agree. But doesn't mean that he doesn't have a valid point...from an evolutionary viewpoint.

    You're viewpoint here and his are not incompatiable.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Evolution of the species is no longer dependent on every human being passing their genes.

    And there is nothing defective about the homosexual's ability to reproduce given that we have artificial insemination. From a purely logical perspective, there is nothing barring the homosexual from passing on his genes, even if it were a necessity for the evolutionary survival of the species.

    And considering the bulk of his arguments prior to now, I am sure you can overlook my natural lean toward suspicion of any argument he uses that has the word "defect" or anything like it present.
    artificial insemination - not a necessity. Sapphic women can still get pregnant the good old fashioned way - and gay men can knock up a Sapphic.

    *gasp* the horror

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    artificial insemination - not a necessity. Sapphic women can still get pregnant the good old fashioned way - and gay men can knock up a Sapphic.

    *gasp* the horror

    syringes not required.
    How wonderful for the child?
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Of course many conservatives argue that people abort babies for dumb reasons, then what about this issue?

    As long as its legal man, go ahead. The mother has the freedom to abort the baby. Yes it might be a stupid reason for doing it, but that's her/their choice, no one else should have a say.


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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Evolution of the species is no longer dependent on every human being passing their genes.
    Okay, you're ignorant of evolution. No problem with that.

    The evolution of any species is determined by which genomes survive and which are deleted.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    And there is nothing defective about the homosexual's ability to reproduce given that we have artificial insemination.
    Please learn how to recognize logical assumptions and try to understand they're role in establishing hypothetical situations.

    There's everything defective about any genetic pattern that causes the male of the species to preferentially desire to inject his sperm into the anus of another male, from a reproductive perspective.

    Unless they're doing other kinky things, there's no eggs up the other guy's anus. Then again, for some gays I've heard there's gerbils up there, and maybe the occasional Smart Car, too. None of that is relevant as far as I can see. What isn't there is a human ovum.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    From a purely logical perspective, there is nothing barring the homosexual from passing on his genes, even if it were a necessity for the evolutionary survival of the species.
    You need to learn that evolution is about statistics, not your innate desires.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    And considering the bulk of his arguments prior to now, I am sure you can overlook my natural lean toward suspicion of any argument he uses that has the word "defect" or anything like it present.
    You mean because I'm accurate in my use of words.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I agree. But doesn't mean that he doesn't have a valid point...from an evolutionary viewpoint.

    You're viewpoint here and his are not incompatiable.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    How wonderful for the child?
    Kids care? I was just pointing out that artificial insemination isn't a necessity or a norm.

    The worst parents I've ever known were all straight, actually - physical, sexual and mental abuse, neglect, drug use, etc etc - all straight.

    But it's not because they're straight that they're horrible.

    So the sexuality of a parent doesn't matter, to me, when it comes to the quality of the parenting.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    How wonderful for the child?
    Yes....because children LOVE the idea that they were created by a man sticking his penis inside a vagina and shooting his semen in to fertilizer the ovum. I'm certain that this is what children dream of.
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