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Thread: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    How the woman is found innocent or guilty is irrelevant, the fact that an investigation is to occur is the point.

    So you are agreeing that an investigation should occur and that if it is found that the woman's body itself rejected the baby or failed to keep the baby alive that the woman should then be brought to trial to face third-degree murder charges?
    ...exorsizing patience...allowing time for you to see post 127.....

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    [QUOTE=Gibberish;452065]
    So you are agreeing that an investigation should occur
    No, I was just humoring you for the sake of conversation, since you seem to have dropped your defense of your claim that it's no ones place to determine how someone else lives.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    No, investigations collect evidence to see if there may have been wrongdoing, and if so, who did it -- and then the local prosecutor or a grand jury determines if the evidence is enough to warrant a trial.
    True.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Not in the United states.

    Again, not in here US.
    The state must prove that they are guilty.
    Isn't disproving the state's claim of guilt equivalent to proving one's innocence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Often, they are.
    There are many isntances where a pregnant mother is killed and her killer is charged for the beath of the baby.
    Yeah, but those are poor convictions. It should be considered a property crime, with our laws as they are now.
    At any rate, if these convictions do set legal precedent that an unborn child can be murdered, would a woman whose negligent behavior led to the death of her unborn child be charged with manslaughter?

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    ...exorsizing patience...allowing time for you to see post 127.....
    So you missed post 129, then . . .

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Why does PC keep suggesting that a misarrange would be a crime?
    I thought PC was all about logic, yet this repeated insinuation/question/accusation/assumption defies that premise.

    So-called "third degree murder" is actually called "Manslaughter", and if you would care to assert that Miscarriage=Murder/Manslaughter and get your azz stomped you can join the carcasses on this killing field:
    man·slaugh·ter /ˈmænˌslɔtər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[man-slaw-ter] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
    –noun
    1. Law. the unlawful killing of a human being without malice aforethought.
    2. the killing of a human being by another; homicide.


    Mansloughter is not a biological function.
    Miscarage is not a crime.
    In your definition and mine it says nothing about biological and non-biological.

    Originally Posted by saggyjones
    Legal Definition of Involuntary Manslaughter
    I fail to see where this says a miscarriage cannot be murder? Are you suggesting no miscarriages are the result of women mistreating the body, hence causing harm to the child?

    The rest of the posts are simply opinions of the posters and should be taken as such.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    No, I was just humoring you for the sake of conversation, since you seem to have dropped your defense of your claim that it's no ones place to determine how someone else lives.
    When did I do that? I was merely making a separate point that you chose to respond to, I posted in response to the previous discussion which, my post, did not receive a response.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeSaint View Post
    Isn't disproving the state's claim of guilt equivalent to proving one's innocence?
    No. Disproving the state's case only disproves the states case -- you may still be guulty; because of some flaw you pointed out, the state's case simply failed to prove it.

    And in any event its up to the state to prove you guilty, not for you to prove you're innocent.

    Yeah, but those are poor convictions.
    Doesnt change the fact that in certain instances, unborn babies are protected by law.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    When did I do that? I was merely making a separate point that you chose to respond to, I posted in response to the previous discussion which, my post, did not receive a response.
    I did not see your response to my last challenge of your position, if there was one. If you could supply the post number...?

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I did not see your response to my last challenge of your position, if there was one. If you could supply the post number...?
    What post are you talking about? I went back to page 6 and have not seen a response I have missed. I don't see one you have missed either. I do see that we transitioned topics though.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    No because it is my opinion and my opinion only.
    But, you opnion is that:
    It is not your place or anyone else's to dictate to someone else how they should live their lives.

    Now, you apply that to telling the mother how she live her life, but you won't apply it to the mother deciding how the baby can/cannot live its life.

    You apply your standard in one place but not the other. Why?

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