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Thread: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I am pro-choice, the choice is to either have a baby or not have a baby. Nothing about the baby but it's future existence should be a factor.
    So -- you can't abort a baby for whatever reason you want?
    Doesnt this conflict with your position that it is not your place or anyone else's to dictate to someone else how they should live their lives?

    I don't agree with aborting a child because the child might not agree with the parents morals.
    So -- you can't abort a baby for whatever reason you want?
    Doesnt this conflict with your position that it is not your place or anyone else's to dictate to someone else how they should live their lives?

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Is it ok to abort a gay baby?
    Have we found a way to a determine a baby's sexual orientation while still inside the womb? :|
    Thats like asking
    "Is it ok to abort fetuses with the possibility of becoming serial killers?"
    It's a question bordering on ridiculous.
    Don't argue the given in an attempt to avoid the issue. People argue all the time that there is a genetic component to homozesuality - given that, the question is completely legitimate.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeThinker View Post
    you are either a liberal using comedy to attack conservatives (colbert), or a redneck making other conservatives look bad.
    either way: shut up.
    Thats a very interesting command, given your ID.


    Abortion before the 2nd trimester should be legal (but only as a last resort) and there is nothing wrong with homosexuality.
    This doesnt answer the question.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I'm assuming all your Pro-life individuals are also going to push for third-degree murder charges for all women who experience a miscarriage. Since in some cases the death of the child is the result of the woman's body herself failing to care for the child in life sustaining fashion.
    Talk about leaps in scenarios.

    Fisrt, you demand that "all women" be held liable, and then you note that the woman is nominally at fault only "in some cases"

    If its only in "some cases", then why the requirement that "all women" be held liable?

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    This doesnt answer the question.
    Your question stereotypes people into two groups:

    1. yes: People that are pro choice are made to look anti-homosexual by saying it is ok to abort a gay baby when they mean abortion in general is ok.

    2. no: Pro-homosexual pro-choice people are made to say that abortion is not ok when they mean that abortion due to the future sexual preference of the baby is wrong.

    I'm pro choice and have no problem with homosexuality, so I'm not going to answer your loaded question.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roberdorus View Post
    I don't think legality makes something right, although there are many wrong (and legal) things that aren't my business. When a person's actions harm another human being, it's not just my business to intervene (if I can); it's my duty. As Jacob Marley would say... "Mankind was my business!"

    Yeah, yeah, but I'm confused. I see two stupid answers.
    All right, fair enough. Legality does not make something right, but it certainly has something to do with how much I'm willing to intervene. I do not believe humanity is my business, because I don't hold myself to be good enough, wise enough, and just enough to always choose the right side when I see a conflict. I would try to stop one person from harming another, whatever the situation.

    Abortion, of course, is not harming a person. It is freeing one, and that is the problem with this analogy: the father does not have any need to beat his child, and the child is a person harmed by the beating, and so it should stop. The fetus is not a person, if the abortion happens before the 20th week or so it does not have nerves and so is not "harmed" by the procedure, and most importantly, the mother has a need to harm the fetus as it is the only way to preserve her bodily sovereignty. That is the key difference: the son is not inside the father's body, taking of his bodily resources, and so the father has no right to defend himself against the son.

    There are your smart answers.
    Last edited by CoffeeSaint; 12-22-06 at 10:40 AM.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Assume for a moment that homosexuality is indeed genetic.
    Assume for a moment that an unborn child is known to have that gene
    Assume for a moment that the parents do not want to take the chance that their child will be a homosexual

    It that sufficient reason to abort the unborn baby?
    Yes. There is no question of "sufficiency of reason." The mother has the right to control her body, and that includes removing the fetus from it. If she sneezes and thinks that means the baby is bad luck, she should have the right to abort it. All freedoms include the freedom to be stupid, and to do things that other people would not agree with -- this right is no different.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeSaint View Post
    There are your smart answers.
    But not an answer to the question posed in the poll...

    (I take this back - you posted while I was posting)

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeSaint View Post
    All freedoms include the freedom to be stupid, and to do things that other people would not agree with -- this right is no different.
    Interesting.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So -- you can't abort a baby for whatever reason you want?
    Doesnt this conflict with your position that it is not your place or anyone else's to dictate to someone else how they should live their lives?
    No because it is my opinion and my opinion only. I am not looking to force my opinion on those that do not share it. I'm not looking to dictate anything and the woman aborting the child is dictacting to a bunch of cells, not a human being. She is stopping cells from forming what could possible create a living human being in the future.
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