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Thread: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roberdorus View Post
    That's good. And if you see a father beating his kid, please don't force your opinions and beliefs onto him. He probably doesn't share them, and you don't want to be intrusive.
    Apples and oranges. Don't make leaps in scenarios to try help your stance.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    I'm assuming all your Pro-life individuals are also going to push for third-degree murder charges for all women who experience a miscarriage. Since in some cases the death of the child is the result of the woman's body herself failing to care for the child in life sustaining fashion.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Apples and oranges. Don't make leaps in scenarios to try help your stance.
    It's not a leap at all, if you think about it. My analogy included a father beating his child. The issue of abortion concerns a mother killing her child. If anything, my analogy is the milder of the two. Now, why don't you address it?
    If you saw a father beating his child, would you think it your business to stop him? Or would you just call it a man's "right to choose", and go on your merry way?

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roberdorus View Post
    It's not a leap at all, if you think about it. My analogy included a father beating his child. The issue of abortion concerns a mother killing her child. If anything, my analogy is the milder of the two. Now, why don't you address it?
    If you saw a father beating his child, would you think it your business to stop him? Or would you just call it a man's "right to choose", and go on your merry way?
    Two ways to answer this:

    First, since child abuse is illegal and abortion is legal, of course I feel it is my business to report a crime. I don't feel it is my business to involve myself when the action in question (an abortion) is not a crime.

    Second, of course I would let the father beat his kid. I don't even like kids. What difference does it make to me?

    Ask a stupid question . . .

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roberdorus View Post
    It's not a leap at all, if you think about it. My analogy included a father beating his child. The issue of abortion concerns a mother killing her child. If anything, my analogy is the milder of the two. Now, why don't you address it?
    If you saw a father beating his child, would you think it your business to stop him? Or would you just call it a man's "right to choose", and go on your merry way?
    I would of course stop it as I hope anyone would since a crime is being committed.

    The reason it is a leap is the fetus in the woman's womb is not the same as the child being hypothetically beaten by it's father. One is a living breathing human being and one is not. One has cognitive thought and one does not.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeSaint View Post
    Two ways to answer this:

    First, since child abuse is illegal and abortion is legal, of course I feel it is my business to report a crime. I don't feel it is my business to involve myself when the action in question (an abortion) is not a crime.
    I don't think legality makes something right, although there are many wrong (and legal) things that aren't my business. When a person's actions harm another human being, it's not just my business to intervene (if I can); it's my duty. As Jacob Marley would say... "Mankind was my business!"

    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeSaint View Post
    Second, of course I would let the father beat his kid. I don't even like kids. What difference does it make to me?

    Ask a stupid question . . .
    Yeah, yeah, but I'm confused. I see two stupid answers.

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I would of course stop it as I hope anyone would since a crime is being committed.
    Glad to see the less inhumane side of you, Gib. If only you could apply these compassionate sentiments to the unborn.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    The reason it is a leap is the fetus in the woman's womb is not the same as the child being hypothetically beaten by it's father. One is a living breathing human being and one is not. One has cognitive thought and one does not.
    For the last time: the scientific community is in complete agreement that at the moment of conception, a distinct and unique human being is created.

    But let's define "cognitive", shall we?

    Of, characterized by, involving, or relating to cognition: "Thinking in terms of dualisms is common in our cognitive culture" (Key Reporter). 2. Having a basis in or reducible to empirical factual knowledge.

    Are you sure a small child has this faculty?

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Assume for a moment that homosexuality is indeed genetic.
    Assume for a moment that an unborn child is known to have that gene
    Assume for a moment that the parents do not want to take the chance that their child will be a homosexual

    It that sufficient reason to abort the unborn baby?



    Someone please add a Yes/No poll
    Very impressive, Goobieman. What you have created here is a rather ingenious minefield debate. Not only is there no right or wrong answer, but any answer lands you in the middle of a minefield. The poll is not directed at morality, values, or position. At it's core, it questions the consistency and lack of hypocracy in one's value/moral system. Since there are correlations between the pro-life/anti-gay positions and the pro-choice/pro-gay positions, this poll questions one's convictions and ability to defend one's stance when an opposing 'curve ball' is presented. Very sharp.
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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Should it be illegal to abort a potentially gay baby because the parents dont want to take the chance of having a gay child?
    No it should not. I must say this is one stupid question and to me it's promoting bigotry right here in DP.

    It's none of my or anyone else's business why they decide to have an abortion and asinine polls like this serve no purpose as is proven by more than 100 posts and two votes in the poll.

    The abortion argument is simple for me....you don't want to have one then do not have one but you damn well better not tell anyone else what they can do...

    The entire premise of this thread is pathetic....

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    Re: Is it OK to abort a gay baby?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Very impressive, Goobieman. What you have created here is a rather ingenious minefield debate. Not only is there no right or wrong answer, but any answer lands you in the middle of a minefield. The poll is not directed at morality, values, or position. At it's core, it questions the consistency and lack of hypocracy in one's value/moral system. Since there are correlations between the pro-life/anti-gay positions and the pro-choice/pro-gay positions, this poll questions one's convictions and ability to defend one's stance when an opposing 'curve ball' is presented. Very sharp.
    Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you.

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