View Poll Results: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

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  • Yes upon release for all offenders

    3 5.26%
  • Yes upon release for non-violent offenders and never for violent offenders

    7 12.28%
  • Yes upon releases for non-violent offenders and a certain amount of time for violent offenses.

    2 3.51%
  • Yes after 1-5 years

    1 1.75%
  • Yes after 6-10 years

    3 5.26%
  • Yes after 11-15 years

    0 0%
  • Yes after 16-20 years

    0 0%
  • Yes after 21-30 years

    0 0%
  • Yes but time of record deletion should depend on offense.

    17 29.82%
  • Criminal records should never be erased.

    24 42.11%
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    Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served? When I say erased I mean someone could do a background check and nothing shows up.There is no record, nor is there anything saying you been convicted or served time behind bars.

    Yes upon release for all offenders
    Yes upon release for non-violent offenders and never for violent offenders
    Yes upon releases for non-violent offenders and a certain amount of time for violent offenses.
    Yes after 1-5 years
    Yes after 6-10 years
    Yes after 11-15 years
    Yes after 16-20 years
    Yes after 21-30 years
    Yes but time of record deletion should depend on offense.
    Criminal records should never be erased.


    I been thinking about this subject for a few days for a while now.If we can trust a former criminal to be in the general public,then shouldn't we erase that person's criminal so that he or she may not be impaired in getting a job or anything else someone may perform a background check for?
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Ideally I'd probably say that after your sentence is served, you should be 100% equal to every other citizen. However, I think with violent offenders, especially repeat violent offenders, there could also be a long probation time.

    All in all though it should be that once one is done with one's sentence, it should be ancient history. I think people should have the opportunity to pull themselves up. 'Once an offender, always an offender' isn't necessarily true.
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Considering the number of ways there are to get busted and how getting busted pretty much torpedoes any chance you have of getting ahead in life, I definitely believe criminal records should come with an expiration date.

    An expiration date that varies based on the crime is the only approach that makes sense, our criminal justice system has too much one-size-fits-all solutions as it is.
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    My basic, but seriously-imperfect belief, is that once a convicted criminal has served his time, and “paid his debt to society”, he should be fully restored to the same status, with all the same rights, as one who has not ever committed a crime. He should be allowed, at that point to make every effort to go on and live a productive life free from any undue obstructions.

    I do, however, see a few important principle that conflict rather severely with this. Certain crimes would tend to indicate a strong proclivity to repeat them, and and I think a certain amount of caution and suspicion is called-for when putting an ex-convict into a situation where he is likely to be unduly tempted to repeat his crime. Potential employers certainly have a legitimate interest in being concerned if someone they are thinking of hiring might be unduly tempted in the position for which they are being considered, to commit a crime. For example, a convicted child abuser being considered for employment in a child care facility; or a convicted embezzler being considered for a position that has access to a company's finances.

    Rather than being allowed to inquire whether a prospective employer has ever been convicted of any crime, perhaps employers should be allowed to inquire whether a prospective employee has ever been convicted of a narrow range of crimes that are relevant to the specific position for which the prospective employee is being considered.
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    No. Sometimes past criminal records are necessary evidence in some judicial processes, and certainly in hiring. At what point should a child molester ever be permitted to work at a preschool? It's totally fine for them to bag groceries, drive a cab, or as a chef in a restaurant. But that conviction really ought to always be a factor in hiring for child-related fields. The same would be true of anyone convicted of fraud who wants to work as an accountant. That conviction is also permissible character evidence to impugn a witness' honesty. There are situations where that information could be needed. Perhaps limit access to that information except as necessary, though. There is no reason for the mere fact of conviction to haunt a person everywhere. It should just be a factor in certain relevant situations.
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    I don't think the records should ever be scrubbed. That said though, I think that once someone is out of prison and has gotten through a probationary period, they shouldn't have to report felony convictions to employers and they should get back all the rights they lost while in prison. That doesn't mean that if they get picked up for another crime, a complete history of their criminal convictions shouldn't be available to the courts or that it shouldn't be taken into account for future convictions.
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    No. They are necessary to prove second, third offenses, offenses like possession of a firearm by a convicted felon, and are a way to keep track of professional crooks. That said, unlike a standard report you get for employment, the NCIC keeps track of all your charges whether you were convicted or not, and often the court, the outcome, the penalties, etc., name changes, aliases, fingerprint info. It is a lot more informative than people realize, not that I think that many realize your local prosecutor has access to the FBI criminal records as readily as they do.

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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Good thread question.

    1. Criminal conviction records, including minor records, should never be erased.
    2. Relating to #1 above, criminal records should be erased upon exoneration (for that specific conviction only, if applicable).
    3. Relating to #1 above, while records should be retained, ALL rights should be re-established upon completion of sentence.
    4. Relating to #3 above, determinate sentences.
    5. Arrest records should be erased within 2 years, regardless any other considerations.
    6. I would even advocate that all prospective employers, public and private, be prohibited from asking for, or even seeking, prior arrest status... we as a society either believe in "innocent until proven guilty", or we don't, and a conviction would show up on its own.
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    No. If I'm vetting a potential employee... or a guy my daughter is dating, for that matter... it's important to know things like convictions for domestic abuse, burglary, embezzlement, assault, DUI's, etc.

    It's true that good people make dumb mistakes, but dumb mistakes for which they are convicted should be a lasting reminder for their dumbness. Especially if their record of dumbness is as long as one's arm.

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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    I tend to believe non-violent crimes shouldn't be carried over (once you've finished all your time, including parole) unless it's a major felony - racketeering, drug dealing in large quantity, etc.

    Violent crimes would depend on the offense but some, like murder, should never come off the books.
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