View Poll Results: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

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  • Yes upon release for all offenders

    3 5.26%
  • Yes upon release for non-violent offenders and never for violent offenders

    7 12.28%
  • Yes upon releases for non-violent offenders and a certain amount of time for violent offenses.

    2 3.51%
  • Yes after 1-5 years

    1 1.75%
  • Yes after 6-10 years

    3 5.26%
  • Yes after 11-15 years

    0 0%
  • Yes after 16-20 years

    0 0%
  • Yes after 21-30 years

    0 0%
  • Yes but time of record deletion should depend on offense.

    17 29.82%
  • Criminal records should never be erased.

    24 42.11%
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    You're talking about my honesty, when you ignore my figures -- which include the fact that, by age 23, 1 in 3 Americans is arrested?

    Har har har.
    Which means 2 in 3 are not. That's the majority, for those not mathematically inclined.
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Come on, it's straightforward English. Maybe the reason the U.S. has more people incarcerated isn't because we're doing anything wrong, but because we have the capacity to do it right and it's other countries that are incapable of arresting, charging, convicting and incarcerating the criminals that they ought to be accountable for.
    One in three Americans by the age of 23. The Federal government can only estimate the number of ways you can get arrested.

    That doesn't bother you?

    Why do you keep ignoring these alarming statistics?
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I imagine it has a lot to do with the fact that I live a quiet life in the sticks.
    So do I. So do lots of people. What does that have to do with anything? Or have they gotten rid of your local police department because nobody in the sticks ever breaks the law?
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    One in three Americans by the age of 23. The Federal government can only estimate the number of ways you can get arrested.
    With as many state and local laws as there are, I'm sure the federal government has better things to do than keep track of them all.

    That doesn't bother you?
    Not in the least. So long as people keep violating the law, they deserve to be arrested. Maybe the solution is for people to stop breaking the law.

    Why do you keep ignoring these alarming statistics?
    The only thing that's alarming about them is how many people are willing to do things that are against the law. Maybe that's where we ought to focus our attention.
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, not lucky me, lucky lots of people. I bet there are tons of people out there who have never, and don't know anyone who has ever seen the inside of a police station.
    AS of the end of 2008 there were 65+ million people in the III national database, which is about 1/4 of all adults and includes "primarily felonies or serious misdemeanors under State or Federal law. I wouldn't call that insignificant.


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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    There is a vast difference between erasing a record and making that record comprehensively unavailable to the general public. I support making records (generally) unavailable to the public. This allows for preservation of records for judicial, administrative, and public safety reviews but shields people the scrutiny of private citizens, employers, etc.

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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    With as many state and local laws as there are, I'm sure the federal government has better things to do than keep track of them all.
    I was talking about Federal laws and Federal regulations, as stated explicitly previously. The Federal government can't tell you for certain how many criminal statutes or regulations with criminal penalties that it itself has enacted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Not in the least. So long as people keep violating the law, they deserve to be arrested. Maybe the solution is for people to stop breaking the law.
    It is impossible for you, yourself, to know whether or not you have broken some criminal law or regulation with a criminal penalty, somewhere at some point. There are too many laws and regulations.
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I don't have a criminal record, heck, never had so much as a speeding ticket and I drove around with long hair and a full beard when those things were not acceptable - IOW, I stuck out like a sore thumb.

    Here's a hint - don't do the crime in the first place.
    There are damn few drivers out there who follow all the rules 100% of the time. Don't kid yourself into believing that you're one of those few just because the police save many of those for "special circumstances".
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    IMO, it should depend solely upon the crime committed against humanity or nature. Things like rape, murder, incest, molestation, bestiality, necrophilia, arson, home invasion, kidnapping... things like that should be a ball and chain for someone for the rest of their life.

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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    [*]I would even advocate that all prospective employers, public and private, be prohibited from asking for, or even seeking, prior arrest status... we as a society either believe in "innocent until proven guilty", or we don't, and a conviction would show up on its own.
    I would agree for this in general employment. However, if an individual is to be bonded, be involved in security, medical and child care, and a great many other jobs I think things like criminal record should be known.

    If I was to hire an individual to work for my landscaping company, I would want to know if they had a record for burglary. Because they would have ample opportunities to do such crimes again as my employee.

    If I was to hire somebody as a clerk in my medical office, I would want to know if they had a record for drug abuse or sales, since they could have easy access to drugs at work.

    If I ran a Charles Chubby Pizza Palace and wanted to hire somebody to portray Charles Chubby, I damned sure wanna know if they had a history of sex crimes (especially against children).

    Now if I was hiring somebody to deliver Pizza things like this are not so important, because at most they could only take a small amount from the company, and interactions with customers is pretty minimum.

    If I was to hire somebody to work sales at an amusement park, I would want to know if they had a theft record. But if they were in the janitorial staff or maintenance staff, I would not really be concerned about this.

    With me, such questions should really only be allowed if the crime could be related to the position that they are applying for. Otherwise, it should not be asked at all.
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