View Poll Results: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

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  • Yes upon release for all offenders

    3 5.26%
  • Yes upon release for non-violent offenders and never for violent offenders

    7 12.28%
  • Yes upon releases for non-violent offenders and a certain amount of time for violent offenses.

    2 3.51%
  • Yes after 1-5 years

    1 1.75%
  • Yes after 6-10 years

    3 5.26%
  • Yes after 11-15 years

    0 0%
  • Yes after 16-20 years

    0 0%
  • Yes after 21-30 years

    0 0%
  • Yes but time of record deletion should depend on offense.

    17 29.82%
  • Criminal records should never be erased.

    24 42.11%
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I don't think the records should ever be scrubbed. That said though, I think that once someone is out of prison and has gotten through a probationary period, they shouldn't have to report felony convictions to employers and they should get back all the rights they lost while in prison. That doesn't mean that if they get picked up for another crime, a complete history of their criminal convictions shouldn't be available to the courts or that it shouldn't be taken into account for future convictions.
    And so the child molester gets a job a your children's school. When discovered the horrible way (when they re-offend) you'll be one of the crowd asking why they hired a child molester that had done this before.

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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And so the child molester gets a job a your children's school. When discovered the horrible way (when they re-offend) you'll be one of the crowd asking why they hired a child molester that had done this before.
    This. And it's exactly the sort of incident that results in a new law being passed, one that invariably goes by the catchy title of "Sarah's Law" or something.

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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I don't need to "do any reading" on the subject. It is nothing but a movement by the conservative corporate puppets hiding behing the Heritage Foundation to do away with criminal penalties for business folks who do not like that they cannot drag out the regulatory process for 20 years before they have to just pay some slap on the wrist fine for dumping toxic chemicals into rivers and crap. Now they can be held accountable much sooner by going to prison for their torts. As for criminalizing feeding the bears in Yellowstone, society will survive.
    In other words, you are completely ignorant of the subject and are happy with that because you know which side of your bread the butter is on. That's fine. Don't even bother denying it, because every time you characterize overcriminalization you focus on very specific areas of the problem which you can easily mischaracterize.

    Enjoy your willful ignorance, and drafting what no doubt will be a witty retort.
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Your way guarantees that an ex-con has a completely fresh start in every field every time, which in principle is fine, but the extent of that would prevent me from making an informed decision which would help me keep potential risks from my life or business. We're just going to have to agree to disagree, as your position doesn't help me in in any concrete way, and in fact only helps to undermine me.

    Your position is not well balanced.
    My position, which I voted for prior to my first post in this thread, is that the length of time for the erasure of records should vary based on the offense. Given the many and varied imperfections in the system we have yet to overcome, it's the best we can do at the moment.
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    My position, which I voted for prior to my first post in this thread, is that the length of time for the erasure of records should vary based on the offense. Given the many and varied imperfections in the system we have yet to overcome, it's the best we can do at the moment.
    I didn't look at the poll so I didn't see that, and the above is obviously a lot more tempered, but I never would have gotten that from your arguments in the last couple pages .

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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And so the child molester gets a job a your children's school. When discovered the horrible way (when they re-offend) you'll be one of the crowd asking why they hired a child molester that had done this before.
    Personally, I don't think child molesters should *EVER* get out of prison, it ought to be a death penalty case. One and done.
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    There are too many shows and movies to count where ex-thieves have been hired to test (or even head) a company's security. I wonder how that sort of thing pans out in real life, or how they get around the fact that, you know, they've hired ex-thieves to supervise their security.
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I didn't look at the poll so I didn't see that, and the above is obviously a lot more tempered, but I never would have gotten that from your arguments in the last couple pages .
    I'm just sick and tired of how a criminal record totally ruins your chances to get ahead in life, especially when you look at how easy it is to get one.
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I'm just sick and tired of how a criminal record totally ruins your chances to get ahead in life, especially when you look at how easy it is to get one.
    Funny, I don't know anyone who has one. It clearly isn't that easy.
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Funny, I don't know anyone who has one.
    Lucky you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It clearly isn't that easy.
    Ah yes, personal experience -- the DP gold standard.
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