View Poll Results: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

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  • Yes upon release for all offenders

    3 5.26%
  • Yes upon release for non-violent offenders and never for violent offenders

    7 12.28%
  • Yes upon releases for non-violent offenders and a certain amount of time for violent offenses.

    2 3.51%
  • Yes after 1-5 years

    1 1.75%
  • Yes after 6-10 years

    3 5.26%
  • Yes after 11-15 years

    0 0%
  • Yes after 16-20 years

    0 0%
  • Yes after 21-30 years

    0 0%
  • Yes but time of record deletion should depend on offense.

    17 29.82%
  • Criminal records should never be erased.

    24 42.11%
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    No. I have the right as an employer to make an informed decision on who I'm hiring and any potential damage they may bring to my business as exemplified by past bad judgment.
    Overcriminalization means that criminal records are no longer a sign of bad judgement.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Overcriminalization means that criminal records are no longer a sign of bad judgement.
    What you call "overcriminalization" I call people taking a stand against that which causes negative consequences for others and/or society.

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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Overcriminalization means that criminal records are no longer a sign of bad judgement.
    I think I addressed this in my response to Radcen.

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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Keep them for law enforcement purposes.

    And I like the idea of offense specific availablility to employers.

    A bank can check for fraud, etc., and a child care place can check for child abuse related offenses.

    Extremely violent offenses could have a "permanent" status applied at sentencing.

    That way, someone busted for a joint in a felony state can get a job.

    Continuing criminal sanctions for life, loss of the right to own firearms, the vote, background checks by ANYBODY, just creates actual second class citizens. And keeps them from ever fully reassimilating. Even FORCING some back to crime who wouldn't have otherwise.
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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Keep them for law enforcement purposes.

    And I like the idea of offense specific availablility to employers.

    A bank can check for fraud, etc., and a child care place can check for child abuse related offenses.

    Extremely violent offenses could have a "permanent" status applied at sentencing.

    That way, someone busted for a joint in a felony state can get a job.

    Continuing criminal sanctions for life, loss of the right to own firearms, the vote, background checks by ANYBODY, just creates actual second class citizens. And keeps them from ever fully reassimilating. Even FORCING some back to crime who wouldn't have otherwise.
    This sounds very fair.

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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Yeah I think making excuses for criminal behavior and enabling it by covering it is a more stupid policy. Thieves will steal again and people who hit people will hit again.
    i think criminals have a better chance of going straight if there's a path forward. if somebody hasn't stolen anything in ten years, that person is a lot less likely to go back to that activity. i can't see shutting someone out of the workforce for life unless they do something absolutely horrible. the way it stands now, small offenses can seriously limit potential. i think that's stupid.

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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    What you call "overcriminalization" I call people taking a stand against that which causes negative consequences for others and/or society.
    I guess you haven't done any reading on the subject then, because otherwise you would know that overcriminalization goes far, far beyond legislators up for re-election who hastily enact legislative solutions to politically charged problems.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I think I addressed this in my response to Radcen.
    No, you really didn't -- in today's tide of overcriminalization, it's quite easy to acquire a criminal record which says absolutely nothing about your judgement and as such shouldn't be a criteria in your employment process.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    No, you really didn't -- in today's tide of overcriminalization, it's quite easy to acquire a criminal record which says absolutely nothing about your judgement and as such shouldn't be a criteria in your employment process.
    Well, first of all I agree with What If's compromise in that it balances the needs of the ex-offender (having some hope for a post-prison career) against the needs of an employer (to protect themselves against an ex-offender who may have a proclivity for specific crimes). That being said, it is grossly negligent to opt for a system that allows a child molester to look after children. That, of course, is just the emotional hot button example of this thread, but there are others, such as the already mentioned embezzler working in a bank; or someone with a DUI record driving a limo, cab or airplane.

    Believe it or not I don't advocate the punitive treatment of ex-cons just for my own personal ****s and giggles, but you have to balance their needs (the right to the pursuit of freedom and happiness) with the rights of others to be informed and to choose not to take potential dangers into their homes or companies.

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    Re: Should criminal records of adults be erased after their sentence has been served?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I guess you haven't done any reading on the subject then, because otherwise you would know that overcriminalization goes far, far beyond legislators up for re-election who hastily enact legislative solutions to politically charged problems.
    I know that "overcriminalization" has put food on my table

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