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Should prostitution be legal?

Should prostitution be legal?

  • Yes

    Votes: 92 83.6%

  • No

    Votes: 18 16.4%
  • Total voters
    110
wolfie said:
Not hard at all..I was just surprised that everyone was bored with my ''anecdotes'' whilst holding up a serious political debate..
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You holding up a seriously political debate? No jokes please.

In all seriousness, I live in Germany, where prostitution is completely legal and highly regulated. I could bust open the yellow pages right now and hire a whore to come to my house if I truly wanted. (I'm married so I don't) And yet here there are regulatory authorities inspecting brothels and private services to insure that all the women are doing this voluntarily, and not being coerced. Prostitution is just as, if not more rampant in the states, but there is zero regulatory oversight, so pimps could do absolutely anything to these women.

If you truly give a **** about women, you won't want prostitution forced underground, where the slimeballs can have their way with them.

ChrisL said:
I knew it was only a matter of time. :roll:
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A matter of time for what? Defending you while simultaneously calling you a moral prude?
 
AlabamaPaul said:
I understand that, but should there be some sort of indemnification agreed to amongst the parties before any action begins and would the courts even uphold that?
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I don't know. What do they do in Nevada where there are legal brothels? I would hope they would use protection and for the most part that wouldn't be an issue. I'm quite sure if prostitution was a legal and regulated industry that condoms would probably be mandatory for them.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
You holding up a seriously political debate? No jokes please.

In all seriousness, I live in Germany, where prostitution is completely legal and highly regulated. I could bust open the yellow pages right now and hire a whore to come to my house if I truly wanted. (I'm married so I don't) And yet here there are regulatory authorities inspecting brothels and private services to insure that all the women are doing this voluntarily, and not being coerced. Prostitution is just as, if not more rampant in the states, but there is zero regulatory oversight, so pimps could do absolutely anything to these women.

If you truly give a **** about women, you won't want prostitution forced underground, where the slimeballs can have their way with them.



A matter of time for what? Defending you while simultaneously calling you a moral prude?
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A matter of time before you would bring things into this thread from a previous thread.
 
ChrisL said:
I don't know. What do they do in Nevada where there are legal brothels? I would hope they would use protection and for the most part that wouldn't be an issue. I'm quite sure if prostitution was a legal and regulated industry that condoms would probably be mandatory for them.
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I'm not sure either; I was simply asking a question. As we both know, "protection" is not always fail safe...
 
AlabamaPaul said:
I'm not sure either; I was simply asking a question. As we both know, "protection" is not always fail safe...
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Sure, but what does that have to do whether prostitution is legal or illegal? I'll bet there would be less pregnancies if condoms were mandatory. As it is now, there are NO regulations.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
You holding up a seriously political debate? No jokes please.

In all seriousness, I live in Germany, where prostitution is completely legal and highly regulated. I could bust open the yellow pages right now and hire a whore to come to my house if I truly wanted. (I'm married so I don't) And yet here there are regulatory authorities inspecting brothels and private services to insure that all the women are doing this voluntarily, and not being coerced. Prostitution is just as, if not more rampant in the states, but there is zero regulatory oversight, so pimps could do absolutely anything to these women.

If you truly give a **** about women, you won't want prostitution forced underground, where the slimeballs can have their way with them.
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Basically I don't want women to prostitute themselves..they are better than that!!
 
ChrisL said:
A matter of time before you would bring things into this thread from a previous thread.
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So you're saying you're a morally liberal/socially accepting person? Really?

Let's call a spade a spade here, chrissy. I'm not here to fight you on this. I just wanted to point out that you have extremely strong views on morality yet still manage somehow to support a person's right to free will. I find that commendable. Wolfie can't manage either.

wolfie said:
Basically I don't want women to prostitute themselves..they are better than that!!
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Some aren't better than that. What about the ones that really want to do it, love the job and love the money? Why do you feel you know better than they do? Would you like someone telling you what to do with your body?
 
RabidAlpaca said:
So you're saying you're a morally liberal/socially accepting person? Really?

Let's call a spade a spade here, chrissy. I'm not here to fight you on this. I just wanted to point out that you have extremely strong views on morality yet still manage somehow to support a person's right to free will. I find that commendable. Wolfie can't manage either.
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I don't think my views on morality are THAT strong, especially in comparison to a lot of others. If someone's lifestyle might have an effect on their work performance and their underlings because of their past career in prostitution or pornography, whether that be on purpose or inadvertent, then I'm against it. But this is off the topic.

One more thing though, I'm actually more apt to support a prostitute being an educator of children than a porn star, simply because of the exposure factor. Kids probably aren't going to see actual films of their ex-prostitute teacher online. It would be simply rumors.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Would you like someone telling you what to do with your body?
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I can't believe this crap..do you think women enjoy being a prostitute??

They may enjoy the financial wealth it may bring them..(all overseen by men)

But ENJOY..nah!!
 
wolfie said:
I can't believe this crap..do you think women enjoy being a prostitute??

They may enjoy the financial wealth it may bring them..(all overseen by men)

But ENJOY..nah!!
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How do you know?
 
wolfie said:
Most adult women prostitutes don't have a say with what happens to their bodies either..

So you are not bothered about them?
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They would if it was legalized.

They could simply advertise their service and have clients come to either their home or a designated place of business.

There would be no need for 'pimps' of any kind.

In fact, that is very much how it often works in Canada (where prostitution is mostly legal).
 
wolfie said:
I would hate to interrupt your serious political debates with another one of my boring anecdotes..
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So, IOW, you don't know.
 
I'm not one to use a prostitute, not one to agree with the practice, but it's there and has been for millennia regardless of it's legality. It makes sense to legalize it and have health standards for multiple reasons, whether or not it's legal it is happening, and unless the sex worker wants to get tested it's not going to happen, then there is the "no legal recourse" situation which forces many of them to use the service of pimps(and we all know what upstanding citizens they are :roll:). Basically, for no moral reasons but just a sense of getting some market controls and limiting secondary crimes related to prostitution such as assault, rape, and murder it makes sense to at least try legalizing and regulating it. It is afterall an act between two consenting adults(excluding other criminal prostitution like sex slaves and underage of course.).
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Absolutely. Why should the government come in and re-neg contracts made between willing adults? What business is it of government to tell someone what to do with their own body?

The only people who want this enforced are the religious moral police.



Slavery is having your free will removed. In prostitution, at no time are they giving up their free will. They're willingly entering into a contract. If that's not the case, such as they're being coerced by their pimp, then the law should step in to prevent this coercion.
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First the Government should stay out of it.... then the government should step in and get involved...
 
In response to the OP, I am opposed to prostitution on both moral and practical grounds. I feel that it is a trade which is hard to regulate, easy to abuse, and which very often winds up being exploitive and unhealthy for both service providers and consumers alike. In an ideal world, the practice would be annihilated entirely and that would be the end of matter.

Unfortunately, however; one must ultimately admit that we do not live in an ideal world. As such, the question of whether or not prostitution should be legalized or illegalized really becomes one of picking the solution which will result in the best possible outcome on average for all individuals involved.

I am inclined to believe that legalized and regulated prostitution fits this criteria. Though, I would also argue that it can have a tendency to make human trafficking for the purposes of the sex trade a lot easier to get away with.

It's honestly kind of a tough call either way.

ThePlayDrive said:
In all fairness, I think being in a shopping plaza would probably mean bad business for the brothel as well. It's hard to think of a worse place for a brothel than in between Best Buy and Payless, LOL.

Brothels would probably end up in the same places that nightclubs, bars, casinos and other places that cater to "vice" end up. Problems with zoning isn't really a legitimate concern when it comes to legalizing prostitution, in my mind. There are plenty of places from nightclubs to liquor stores that people don't want in certain areas, but we always find some place to put them.
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For some people, that might actually prove to be rather convenient. :lol:

I couldn't held but laugh when I visited Heidelberg Army Base in Germany in 2011 and found that there was a brothel literally right across the street from the gate for the main post exchange. Rumour had it that a non-neglible number of soldiers on post would wind up engaged or married after a few trips to the establishment.
 
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Gathomas88 said:
In response to the OP, I am opposed to prostitution on both moral and practical grounds. I feel that it is a trade which is hard to regulate, easy to abuse, and which very often winds up being exploitive and unhealthy for both service providers and consumers alike. In an ideal world, the practice would be annihilated entirely and that would be the end of matter.

Unfortunately, however; one must ultimately admit that we do not live in an ideal world. As such, the question of whether or not prostitution should be legalized or illegalized really becomes one of picking the solution which will result in the best possible outcome on average for all individuals involved.

I am inclined to believe that legalized and regulated prostitution fits this criteria. Though, I would also argue that it can have a tendency to make human trafficking for the purposes of the sex trade a lot easier to get away with.

It's honestly kind of a tough call either way.



For some people, that might actually prove to be rather convenient. :lol:

I couldn't held but laugh when I visited Heidelberg Army Base in Germany in 2011 and found that there was a brothel literally right across the street from the gate for the main post exchange. Rumour had it that a non-neglible number of soldiers on post would wind up engaged or married after a few trips to the establishment.
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I'd like you to elaborate on that statement in bold if you wouldn't mind. I'm curious as to how you think regulation would lead to MORE illegal activity.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
In all fairness, I think being in a shopping plaza would probably mean bad business for the brothel as well. It's hard to think of a worse place for a brothel than in between Best Buy and Payless, LOL.

Brothels would probably end up in the same places that nightclubs, bars, casinos and other places that cater to "vice" end up. Problems with zoning isn't really a legitimate concern when it comes to legalizing prostitution, in my mind. There are plenty of places from nightclubs to liquor stores that people don't want in certain areas, but we always find some place to put them.
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ChrisL said:
I'd like you to elaborate on that statement in bold if you wouldn't mind. I'm curious as to how you think regulation would lead to MORE illegal activity.
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Because it has already happened in Europe.

Europe Reconsiders Prostitution as Sex Trafficking Booms

Legalized prostitution apparently makes it very difficult for authorities to differentiate between those who work in the sex trade on a voluntary basis, and those who do so under the threat of violence. It also creates increased demand for prostitutes which legal brothels tend to have difficulty meeting by themselves.

Both of these factors have the unintended consequence of opening up the black market for sex trafficking. True to form, unsavory organizations like the Russian Mob have pounced on these opportunities like rabbid wolves.
 
Gathomas88 said:
Because it has already happened in Europe.

Europe Reconsiders Prostitution as Sex Trafficking Booms

Legalized prostitution apparently makes it very difficult for authorities to differentiate between those who work in the sex trade on a voluntary basis, and those who do so under the threat of violence. It also creates increased demand for prostitutes which legal brothels tend to have difficulty meeting by themselves.

Both of these factors create black market openings for sex trafficking which unsavory organizations like the Russian Mob have pounced on like rabbid wolves.
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How can you possibly consider the risks to be WORSE with regulations as opposed to without ANY regulations at all? It just doesn't make sense. Sorry.
 
ChrisL said:
How can you possibly consider the risks to be WORSE with regulations as opposed to without ANY regulations at all? It just doesn't make sense. Sorry.
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I'm just telling you what the statistics have shown. This is a very real problem that many European nations are currently facing.

It would appear that having a far larger number of prostitutes in a given nation simply makes it easier for organized crime to hide a far larger number of illegal prostitutes in bondage. :shrug:
 
Gathomas88 said:
I'm just telling you what the statistics have shown. This is a very real problem that many European nations are currently facing.

It would appear that having a far larger number of prostitutes in a given nation simply makes it easier for organized crime to hide a far larger number of illegal prostitutes in bondage. :shrug:
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Lol! Those stats MUST be bogus. For one thing, you cannot even ACCOUNT for what you don't know is going on. When something is illegal, there is no way to possibly keep track. These stats are only from when it was legalized, so how they can make such a bogus comparison, I don't know.
 
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