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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I'm sure you're their best customer.
    Do you really want to go personal? I've discussed the issue, and it would be appreciated if you would confine your responses to the issue as well...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    If you're talking about Holland, many of those women were brought there from Russia or Eastern Europe as little girls via human trafficking.
    "Many..."

    That says it all. Many, but not all. Many people are killed for their organs, yet organ transplants are legal. People are kidnapped and sold for work in Asian factories, yet working in factories is legal. Of course people use and will continue to use sick methods of getting girls who don't want to do certain things to do those things. That's not going to evaporate. The question is whether making it legal for girls to willingly do it will help. The answer is probably a yes.

    I'm not absolutely sure I would support it, but I don't think you've given me any reason not to. All these statistics and the degradation of societal values are irrelevant, really. Do we really need to go through all the dangerous jobs in the world? Because very close to 100% of the most dangerous jobs in the world are legal. Danger is not a reason to make it illegal, as long as the people do it do it willingly and do not harm others.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    [B]A Canadian Report on Prostitution and Pornography concluded <snip>
    Canada? Who cares? This is the USA we're talking about, a much different place than Canada. If you have to go to Canada to get your data then you must be running shy of it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Estimates of the prevalence of incest among prostitutes range from 65% to 90%. <snip>
    And you believe legal prostitution would increase these "estimates"? How do you figure that?


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The average age of entry into prostitution is 13 years (M.H. Silbert and A.M. Pines, 1982, "Victimization of street prostitutes, Victimology: An International Journal, 7: 122-133) or 14 years (D.Kelly Weisberg, 1985, Children of the Night: A Study of Adolescent Prostitution, Lexington, Mass, Toronto). Most of these 13 or 14 year old girls were recruited or coerced into prostitution. Others were "traditional wives" without job skills who escaped from or were abandoned by abusive husbands and went into prostitution to support themselves and their children. (Denise Gamache and Evelina Giobbe, Prostitution: Oppression Disguised as Liberation, National Coalition against Domestic Violence, 1990)
    Considering the large number of adults who enter into prostitution I seriously doubt the 13 y/o conclusion.

    But underage prostitution would still be illegal even if prostitution were legalized - and you've shown nothing to even imply legalization would make this increase. If anything, government oversight would tend to decrease this kind of child abuse.



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    80% of prostitution survivors at the WHISPER Oral History Project reported that their customers showed them pornography to illustrate the kinds of sexual activities in which they wanted to engage.
    We have safety and instructional classes at work, too.


    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    90% of prostituted women interviewed by WHISPER had pimps while in prostitution (Evelina Giobbe, 1987, WHISPER Oral History Project, Minneapolis, Minnesota).
    I have a boss.



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    "About 80% of women in prostitution have been the victim of a rape. <snip>
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    78% of 55 women who sought help from the Council for Prostitution Alternatives in 1991 reported being raped an average of 16 times a year by pimps<snip>
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    <snip>73% reported having experienced physical assault in prostitution.
    Legalizing prostitution would decrease the violence because prostitutes could report sexual and physical abuse just like anyone else. With it being illegal they're basically blackmailed into keeping their mouth shut.



    If anything, your examples have shown that legalizing prostitution would be a benefit. Nothing you've cited here would be worse than it is now and many things would get better with legalization.
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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    The difference in suicide rates is not nearly as pronounced (it is 40 times higher for a prostitute), and I think the fact that Scandinavia has such a high suicide rate means the people over there should look in to why that is and do something about it.
    I think they have.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I do think porn should be illegal.

    Is it really that hard to put on a nice shirt, go out, and get some real pussy?
    Porn doesn't complain, or ask you to take it to dinner.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I know, but it's the rest of the year I can't deal with...
    Oh, neither can we...

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Do you really want to go personal? I've discussed the issue, and it would be appreciated if you would confine your responses to the issue as well...
    Actually, you went personal by claiming you knew many of these women. If you didn't want me to respond to your situation, you shouldn't have brought it up.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by kingsbridge View Post
    I think they have.
    For the record, I was born and raised in Sweden, so I am Scandinavian as well.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Actually, you went personal by claiming you knew many of these women. If you didn't want me to respond to your situation, you shouldn't have brought it up.
    I did. Do you find that an appropriate excuse to make accusations as to my activities?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Porn doesn't complain, or ask you to take it to dinner.
    No, but I think porn is quite harmful all the same. Just a personal opinion, based on a bit of research, though big studies haven't really been done.

    Prostitution, on the other hand, is very well studied and we know how harmful it is.

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