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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    In response to the OP, I am opposed to prostitution on both moral and practical grounds. I feel that it is a trade which is hard to regulate, easy to abuse, and which very often winds up being exploitive and unhealthy for both service providers and consumers alike. In an ideal world, the practice would be annihilated entirely and that would be the end of matter.

    Unfortunately, however; one must ultimately admit that we do not live in an ideal world. As such, the question of whether or not prostitution should be legalized or illegalized really becomes one of picking the solution which will result in the best possible outcome on average for all individuals involved.

    I am inclined to believe that legalized and regulated prostitution fits this criteria. Though, I would also argue that it can have a tendency to make human trafficking for the purposes of the sex trade a lot easier to get away with.

    It's honestly kind of a tough call either way.



    For some people, that might actually prove to be rather convenient.

    I couldn't held but laugh when I visited Heidelberg Army Base in Germany in 2011 and found that there was a brothel literally right across the street from the gate for the main post exchange. Rumour had it that a non-neglible number of soldiers on post would wind up engaged or married after a few trips to the establishment.
    I'd like you to elaborate on that statement in bold if you wouldn't mind. I'm curious as to how you think regulation would lead to MORE illegal activity.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    In all fairness, I think being in a shopping plaza would probably mean bad business for the brothel as well. It's hard to think of a worse place for a brothel than in between Best Buy and Payless, LOL.

    Brothels would probably end up in the same places that nightclubs, bars, casinos and other places that cater to "vice" end up. Problems with zoning isn't really a legitimate concern when it comes to legalizing prostitution, in my mind. There are plenty of places from nightclubs to liquor stores that people don't want in certain areas, but we always find some place to put them.
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'd like you to elaborate on that statement in bold if you wouldn't mind. I'm curious as to how you think regulation would lead to MORE illegal activity.
    Because it has already happened in Europe.

    Europe Reconsiders Prostitution as Sex Trafficking Booms

    Legalized prostitution apparently makes it very difficult for authorities to differentiate between those who work in the sex trade on a voluntary basis, and those who do so under the threat of violence. It also creates increased demand for prostitutes which legal brothels tend to have difficulty meeting by themselves.

    Both of these factors have the unintended consequence of opening up the black market for sex trafficking. True to form, unsavory organizations like the Russian Mob have pounced on these opportunities like rabbid wolves.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Because it has already happened in Europe.

    Europe Reconsiders Prostitution as Sex Trafficking Booms

    Legalized prostitution apparently makes it very difficult for authorities to differentiate between those who work in the sex trade on a voluntary basis, and those who do so under the threat of violence. It also creates increased demand for prostitutes which legal brothels tend to have difficulty meeting by themselves.

    Both of these factors create black market openings for sex trafficking which unsavory organizations like the Russian Mob have pounced on like rabbid wolves.
    How can you possibly consider the risks to be WORSE with regulations as opposed to without ANY regulations at all? It just doesn't make sense. Sorry.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    How can you possibly consider the risks to be WORSE with regulations as opposed to without ANY regulations at all? It just doesn't make sense. Sorry.
    I'm just telling you what the statistics have shown. This is a very real problem that many European nations are currently facing.

    It would appear that having a far larger number of prostitutes in a given nation simply makes it easier for organized crime to hide a far larger number of illegal prostitutes in bondage.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I'm just telling you what the statistics have shown. This is a very real problem that many European nations are currently facing.

    It would appear that having a far larger number of prostitutes in a given nation simply makes it easier for organized crime to hide a far larger number of illegal prostitutes in bondage.
    Lol! Those stats MUST be bogus. For one thing, you cannot even ACCOUNT for what you don't know is going on. When something is illegal, there is no way to possibly keep track. These stats are only from when it was legalized, so how they can make such a bogus comparison, I don't know.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    I'm just telling you what the statistics have shown. This is a very real problem that many European nations are currently facing.

    It would appear that having a far larger number of prostitutes in a given nation simply makes it easier for organized crime to hide a far larger number of illegal prostitutes in bondage.
    Does that mean you have an ideological opposition to people selling their bodies ? I thought you were "Mr. Freedom"......................

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Lol! Those stats MUST be bogus. For one thing, you cannot even ACCOUNT for what you don't know is going on. When something is illegal, there is no way to possibly keep track. These stats are only from when it was legalized, so how they can make such a bogus comparison, I don't know.
    Again, according to the article.

    foreigners make up some 70 percent of people in Germany's sex trade.
    When most of these women wouldn't even be in Europe in the first place if it were not legalized prostitution, I would imagine that it makes it quite a bit easier to get an idea of the overall number that might have been trafficked in illegally.

    As I said before, it's not like this is some kind of widely debunked fringe claim. It is pretty widely acknowledged by the European community. There's actually a lot of literature on the subject.

    European Union Report Details Growth Of Human Trafficking

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Does that mean you have an ideological opposition to people selling their bodies ? I thought you were "Mr. Freedom"......................
    I'm fairly sure that I never claimed to be anything of the kind.

    Hell, my leaning isn't even "libertarian."
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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Again, according to the article.



    When most of these women wouldn't even be in Europe in the first place if it were not legalized prostitution, I would imagine that it makes it quite a bit easier to get an idea of the overall number that might have been trafficked in illegally.

    As I said before, it's not like this is some kind of widely debunked fringe claim. It is pretty widely acknowledged by the European community. There's actually a lot of literature on the subject.

    European Union Report Details Growth Of Human Trafficking



    I'm fairly sure that I never claimed to be anything of the kind.

    Hell! My leaning isn't even "libertarian."
    So, you believe in "freedom" to the extent that you believe in the "freedom" of all people to do as their told....................

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Lol! Those stats MUST be bogus. For one thing, you cannot even ACCOUNT for what you don't know is going on. When something is illegal, there is no way to possibly keep track. These stats are only from when it was legalized, so how they can make such a bogus comparison, I don't know.
    Again, according to the article.

    When most of these women wouldn't even be in Europe in the first place if it were not legalized prostitution, I would imagine that it makes it quite a bit easier to get an idea of the overall number that might have been trafficked in illegally.

    As I said before, it's not like this is some kind of widely debunked fringe claim. It is pretty widely acknowledged by the European community. There's actually a lot of literature on the subject.

    European Union Report Details Growth Of Human Trafficking
    Here's the actual study, if you're curious.

    Eurostat - Trafficking in Human Beings

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    So, you believe in "freedom" to the extent that you believe in the "freedom" of all people to do as their told....................
    Freedom is not absolute.

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    Re: Should prostitution be legal?

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