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    How Wall St. Bailed Out the Nazis

    How Wall St. Bailed Out the Nazis | Consortiumnews "Near the end of World War II, the secret collaboration between U.S. spymaster Allen Dulles and Nazi SS officers enabled many German war criminals to escape prosecution and positioned them to fan the flames of post-war tensions between the former allies, the United States and the Soviet Union.
    In that way, the Old Nazis — aided by Dulles and other ex-Wall Street lawyers – prevented a thorough denazification of Germany and put the Third Reich’s stamp on decades of atrocities during the long Cold War, spreading their brutal death-squad techniques to faraway places, especially Latin America." "
    “The more secrets come to light, the clearer it becomes how extensively intelligence agencies had infiltrated right-wing extremist groups. The trio of neo-Nazis that made up the NSU was surrounded by informants linked with [the BFV]. … One of the big questions … is whether [the BFV] actually strengthened military right-wing groups.”
    How the BFV worked at cross-purposes – coddling neo-Nazis while supposedly constraining them – is not entirely surprising in light of the circumstances surrounding the BFV’s birth.
    West Germany’s first parliamentary elections in 1950 propelled into the chancellorship, Konrad Adenauer – a stalwart of the same party as that of current German chancellor Angela Merkel, the conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU).
    When Adenauer named Dr. Hans Globke as his Secretary of State, the West German chancellor laid his cards on the table. Globke’s checkered past included wartime service at the helm of the Nazi Interior Ministry’s Office for Jewish Affairs. He drafted the infamous Nuremberg Laws for the Protection of German Blood and wrote the “Commentary” that provided the rationale for genocide.
    The Interior Minister who signed the Nuremberg Laws, Dr. Wilhelm Frick, was sentenced to death at Nuremberg and hanged in October 1946. Globke would appear to have been culpable, too, having advanced his career during Nazi rule. His immediate supervisor, Interior Ministry Legal Counsel Bernard Loesner, resigned following Hitler’s decision to proceed with the extermination of European Jewry. When Loesner stepped down, Globke stepped up and left his fingerprints on the Final Solution.
    But Globke was not only spared the fate of some colleagues tried at Nuremberg but emerged as an important figure in shaping post-war West Germany. In the 1961 book, The New Germany and the Old Nazis, T.H. Tetens, a German economist who worked for the U.S. War Crimes Commission, noted that Globke controlled every department of West Germany’s government in Bonn and “has done more than anyone else to re-Nazify West Germany.” Is current leadership of USA Intelligence Agencies still in bed with Neo Nazis? Are our Intelligence Agencies Big Business Crooks? Who do our Intelligence Agencies work for, if not us? Could drugs in Afghanistan cause a similar contamination of Intelligence Agencies? Could OIL in Iraq cause Big Energy crooks to influence Intelligence Agencies? I am unable to change the format of this post. My enter key does not move me to a new line.

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    Re: How Wall St. Bailed Out the Nazis

    [QUOTE=DaveFagan;1061901904]How Wall St. Bailed Out the Nazis | Consortiumnews "Near the end of World War II, the secret collaboration between U.S. spymaster Allen Dulles and Nazi SS officers enabled many German war criminals to escape prosecution and positioned them to fan the flames of post-war tensions between the former allies, the United States and the Soviet Union.
    In that way, the Old Nazis — aided by Dulles and other ex-Wall Street lawyers – prevented a thorough denazification of Germany and put the Third Reich’s stamp on decades of atrocities during the long Cold War, spreading their brutal death-squad techniques to faraway places, especially Latin America." "
    “The more secrets come to light, the clearer it becomes how extensively intelligence agencies had infiltrated right-wing extremist groups. The trio of neo-Nazis that made up the NSU was surrounded by informants linked with [the BFV]. … One of the big questions … is whether [the BFV] actually strengthened military right-wing groups.”
    How the BFV worked at cross-purposes – coddling neo-Nazis while supposedly constraining them – is not entirely surprising in light of the circumstances surrounding the BFV’s birth.
    West Germany’s first parliamentary elections in 1950 propelled into the chancellorship, Konrad Adenauer – a stalwart of the same party as that of current German chancellor Angela Merkel, the conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU).
    When Adenauer named Dr. Hans Globke as his Secretary of State, the West German chancellor laid his cards on the table. Globke’s checkered past included wartime service at the helm of the Nazi Interior Ministry’s Office for Jewish Affairs. He drafted the infamous Nuremberg Laws for the Protection of German Blood and wrote the “Commentary” that provided the rationale for genocide.
    The Interior Minister who signed the Nuremberg Laws, Dr. Wilhelm Frick, was sentenced to death at Nuremberg and hanged in October 1946. Globke would appear to have been culpable, too, having advanced his career during Nazi rule. His immediate supervisor, Interior Ministry Legal Counsel Bernard Loesner, resigned following Hitler’s decision to proceed with the extermination of European Jewry. When Loesner stepped down, Globke stepped up and left his fingerprints on the Final Solution.
    But Globke was not only spared the fate of some colleagues tried at Nuremberg but emerged as an important figure in shaping post-war West Germany. In the 1961 book, The New Germany and the Old Nazis, T.H. Tetens, a German economist who worked for the U.S. War Crimes Commission, noted that Globke controlled every department of West Germany’s government in Bonn and “has done more than anyone else to re-Nazify West Germany.” Is current leadership of USA Intelligence Agencies still in bed with Neo Nazis? Are our Intelligence Agencies Big Business Crooks? Who do our Intelligence Agencies work for, if not us? Could drugs in Afghanistan cause a similar contamination of Intelligence Agencies? Could OIL in Iraq cause Big Energy crooks to influence Intelligence Agencies? I am unable to change the format of this post. My enter key does not move me to a new line.[/QUOTE]

    I thought it was just me having that problem.

    On the OP though I think the feeling was some of these Nazi's had a lot of info and expertise we could utilize in the post war years. I don't really see any nefarious scheme here.

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    Re: How Wall St. Bailed Out the Nazis

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    How Wall St. Bailed Out the Nazis | Consortiumnews "Near the end of World War II, the secret collaboration between U.S. spymaster Allen Dulles and Nazi SS officers enabled many German war criminals to escape prosecution and positioned them to fan the flames of post-war tensions between the former allies, the United States and the Soviet Union.
    In that way, the Old Nazis — aided by Dulles and other ex-Wall Street lawyers – prevented a thorough denazification of Germany and put the Third Reich’s stamp on decades of atrocities during the long Cold War, spreading their brutal death-squad techniques to faraway places, especially Latin America." "
    “The more secrets come to light, the clearer it becomes how extensively intelligence agencies had infiltrated right-wing extremist groups. The trio of neo-Nazis that made up the NSU was surrounded by informants linked with [the BFV]. … One of the big questions … is whether [the BFV] actually strengthened military right-wing groups.”
    How the BFV worked at cross-purposes – coddling neo-Nazis while supposedly constraining them – is not entirely surprising in light of the circumstances surrounding the BFV’s birth.
    West Germany’s first parliamentary elections in 1950 propelled into the chancellorship, Konrad Adenauer – a stalwart of the same party as that of current German chancellor Angela Merkel, the conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU).
    When Adenauer named Dr. Hans Globke as his Secretary of State, the West German chancellor laid his cards on the table. Globke’s checkered past included wartime service at the helm of the Nazi Interior Ministry’s Office for Jewish Affairs. He drafted the infamous Nuremberg Laws for the Protection of German Blood and wrote the “Commentary” that provided the rationale for genocide.
    The Interior Minister who signed the Nuremberg Laws, Dr. Wilhelm Frick, was sentenced to death at Nuremberg and hanged in October 1946. Globke would appear to have been culpable, too, having advanced his career during Nazi rule. His immediate supervisor, Interior Ministry Legal Counsel Bernard Loesner, resigned following Hitler’s decision to proceed with the extermination of European Jewry. When Loesner stepped down, Globke stepped up and left his fingerprints on the Final Solution.
    But Globke was not only spared the fate of some colleagues tried at Nuremberg but emerged as an important figure in shaping post-war West Germany. In the 1961 book, The New Germany and the Old Nazis, T.H. Tetens, a German economist who worked for the U.S. War Crimes Commission, noted that Globke controlled every department of West Germany’s government in Bonn and “has done more than anyone else to re-Nazify West Germany.” Is current leadership of USA Intelligence Agencies still in bed with Neo Nazis? Are our Intelligence Agencies Big Business Crooks? Who do our Intelligence Agencies work for, if not us? Could drugs in Afghanistan cause a similar contamination of Intelligence Agencies? Could OIL in Iraq cause Big Energy crooks to influence Intelligence Agencies? I am unable to change the format of this post. My enter key does not move me to a new line.[/QUOTE]

    I thought it was just me having that problem.

    On the OP though I think the feeling was some of these Nazi's had a lot of info and expertise we could utilize in the post war years. I don't really see any nefarious scheme here.
    Have you read much about our policies in Latin/South America? Check El Salvador, Guatemala, Panama, Chile, Paraquay, Nicaragua, Brazil and see what atrocities we have been complicit in. It is all for the sake of "Banana Republics" or strong Corporate control because our CIA works for Corporate America overseas and that is not you and I. We are still doing the same evils today. There has been no change because of the low moral quality of our Intelligence Agencies entrenched leadership.

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    Re: How Wall St. Bailed Out the Nazis

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post

    Have you read much about our policies in Latin/South America? Check El Salvador, Guatemala, Panama, Chile, Paraquay, Nicaragua, Brazil and see what atrocities we have been complicit in. It is all for the sake of "Banana Republics" or strong Corporate control because our CIA works for Corporate America overseas and that is not you and I. We are still doing the same evils today. There has been no change because of the low moral quality of our Intelligence Agencies entrenched leadership.
    Have you read much about the atrocities committed by Soviet supported groups in Central and South America? The atrocities that took place down there are more about the culture than The United States.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: How Wall St. Bailed Out the Nazis

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post

    Have you read much about the atrocities committed by Soviet supported groups in Central and South America? The atrocities that took place down there are more about the culture than The United States.
    Investigate and see how many graduates of the "School of the Americas" in Norcross, Georgia went on to become National leaders and leaders of "death squads" in the Americas? You will have a difficult time finding a more outrageous group even in a Muslim survey.

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    Re: How Wall St. Bailed Out the Nazis

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Investigate and see how many graduates of the "School of the Americas" in Norcross, Georgia went on to become National leaders and leaders of "death squads" in the Americas? You will have a difficult time finding a more outrageous group even in a Muslim survey.
    Investigate and see how many people died at the hands of communist death squads.

    Again, The United States didn't create these monsters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: How Wall St. Bailed Out the Nazis

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Investigate and see how many people died at the hands of communist death squads.

    Again, The United States didn't create these monsters.
    Here are my links, where are yours?

    School of Americas ("Founded by the United States in 1946, the SOA was initially located in Panama, but in 1984 it was kicked out under the terms of the Panama Canal Treaty and moved to the army base at Fort Benning, Georgia. Then-President of Panama Jorge Illueca called it "the biggest base for de-stabilization in Latin America," and a major Panamanian newspaper dubbed it " The School of Assassins.")
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    Romney's Death Squad Ties | SOA Watch: Close the School of the Americas (". After initially struggling to find investors, Romney traveled to Miami in 1983 to win pledges of $9 million, 40 percent of Bain’s start-up money. Some investors had extensive ties to the death squads responsible for the vast majority of the tens of thousands of deaths in El Salvador during the 1980s")

    http://truth-out.org/news/item/9685-...cluding-mexico ("As part of her interest in human rights, she traveled to Guatemala in the early '90s to write a book, "Bridge to Courage: Life Stories of Guatemalan Compañeros & Compañeras." It was at that time she met, fell in love with and married Everardo (Efraín Bámaca Velásquez), who was a commandante in the Guatemalan National Revolutionary Unity Front. He was fighting against the US-backed military and government, which was committing genocide against the indigenous population and the poor (ending in more than 200,000 dead - and countless more tortured, but released).")

    Google
    (Google link that gives 1,230,000 links to these atrocities.

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    Re: How Wall St. Bailed Out the Nazis

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Here are my links, where are yours?

    School of Americas ("Founded by the United States in 1946, the SOA was initially located in Panama, but in 1984 it was kicked out under the terms of the Panama Canal Treaty and moved to the army base at Fort Benning, Georgia. Then-President of Panama Jorge Illueca called it "the biggest base for de-stabilization in Latin America," and a major Panamanian newspaper dubbed it " The School of Assassins.")
    "
    Romney's Death Squad Ties | SOA Watch: Close the School of the Americas (". After initially struggling to find investors, Romney traveled to Miami in 1983 to win pledges of $9 million, 40 percent of Bain’s start-up money. Some investors had extensive ties to the death squads responsible for the vast majority of the tens of thousands of deaths in El Salvador during the 1980s")

    The School of the Americas, the CIA and the US-Condoned Cancer of Torture Continue to Spread in Latin America, Including Mexico ("As part of her interest in human rights, she traveled to Guatemala in the early '90s to write a book, "Bridge to Courage: Life Stories of Guatemalan Compañeros & Compañeras." It was at that time she met, fell in love with and married Everardo (Efraín Bámaca Velásquez), who was a commandante in the Guatemalan National Revolutionary Unity Front. He was fighting against the US-backed military and government, which was committing genocide against the indigenous population and the poor (ending in more than 200,000 dead - and countless more tortured, but released).")

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    (Google link that gives 1,230,000 links to these atrocities.

    FARC and the Sandinistas. 'Nuff said.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: How Wall St. Bailed Out the Nazis

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    FARC and the Sandinistas. 'Nuff said.
    So we should break international law and teach people how to torture and train people to have death squads and get involved in peoples revolutions and civil wars just because of the FARC (who by the way is in peace talks), and the Sandinistas (which was a total legitimate revolutionary group which is now a political party)?


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