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    For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Referencing THIS story.

    A question for Conservatives.

    If a Valedictorian in a south carolina school decided to rip up their speech and instead read the islamic Call to Prayer, would you have an issue with that? If so, what would the reason for your taking issue with it?
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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    I fully support genuine expressions of faith in any forum. Those expressions of faith, however, should not overshadow the express purpose of the event in which they are expressed. Saying a prayer prior to a commencement address is one thing, dispensing with the address entirely and substituting it with the call to prayer is another.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Referencing THIS story.

    A question for Conservatives.

    If a Valedictorian in a south carolina school decided to rip up their speech and instead read the islamic Call to Prayer, would you have an issue with that? If so, what would the reason for your taking issue with it?
    First, it wasn't a call to prayer. He read a portion of Scripture. 2nd, no I wouldn't take issue, wouldn't like it at all as I personally believe Islam to be a religion of war and an enemy of the US, but it is freedom of speech.
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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    First, it wasn't a call to prayer. He read a portion of Scripture. 2nd, no I wouldn't take issue, wouldn't like it at all as I personally believe Islam to be a religion of war and an enemy of the US, but it is freedom of speech.
    Wouldn't a very simple solution be to just pray before or after the ceremony?

    Why do people, of any faith, feel the need to be heard when they pray or read scripture?

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Wouldn't a very simple solution be to just pray before or after the ceremony?

    Why do people, of any faith, feel the need to be heard when they pray or read scripture?

    Public expression of faith is an article of belief in many religions, and protected speech under the 1st Amendment.

    Given that the country is, depending on what survey you believe, 70% or more self-identifying as Christian, it stands to reason that there's going to be a certain amount of public expression.

    If a Jewish student wished to say a few words from the Torah, I would have no issue with that.

    Now in all honesty, I'm not a big fan of Islam just the now, for obvious reasons. But if the valedictorian was Islamic and wanted to say something briefly as an affirmation of his/her faith, I don't think that is outside the bounds of reason either.

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Wouldn't a very simple solution be to just pray before or after the ceremony?

    Why do people, of any faith, feel the need to be heard when they pray or read scripture?
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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Referencing THIS story.

    A question for Conservatives.

    If a Valedictorian in a south carolina school decided to rip up their speech and instead read the islamic Call to Prayer, would you have an issue with that? If so, what would the reason for your taking issue with it?
    I wouldn't like it but I respect his or her right to say it!!!

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

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    Why do people, of any faith, feel the need to be heard when they pray or read scripture?
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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    First, it wasn't a call to prayer.
    The "Call to Prayer" or the Adhan is, to my understanding, something similar to the Lord's Prayer for Christians. I was meaning that, not an actual like "Yo peeps, everybody bow your heads and pray with me" calling for prayer if that's what you thought I meant.

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    The "Call to Prayer" or the Adhan is, to my understanding, something similar to the Lord's Prayer for Christians. I was meaning that, not an actual like "Yo peeps, everybody bow your heads and pray with me" calling for prayer if that's what you thought I meant.
    Thanks for the clarification, I did misunderstand that.
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