View Poll Results: Would you have an issue with a valedictorian reading the Call to Prayer

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  • No, I'd have no problem at all.

    17 45.95%
  • No. I'd not like it, but I wouldn't take issue with it.

    11 29.73%
  • Yes, I don't think a public education ceremony is the right venue.

    6 16.22%
  • Yes, I don't think it should be done because the crowd/state/nation is primarily Christian

    2 5.41%
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    3 8.11%
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Thread: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So knowledge, what do you think about the actual question in the OP?
    I think it is perfectly acceptable to thank one's God in the course of the ceremony, but to pause it for one's own personal prayer, whether he invites others to join or not, is inconsiderate. Reading scripture is going even further.

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    And this, ladies and gentleman, is lack of class.
    In other words:

    Only people who I agree with me should be allowed to talk!


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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Atheism is a lack of belief in God, not a lack of belief. In fact, they have a faith, that there is no God. That is a religion.
    Mmmmmmm nooope

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Richard Dawkins is a bafoon.
    A bafoon with a Phd in real academics

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Mmmmmmm nooope
    From Webster, Religion: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith.

    There is no way you can say Athiests do not fit this definition.
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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    In other words:

    Only people who I agree with me should be allowed to talk!

    That's not how us grownups act, little Andy

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    I think it is perfectly acceptable to thank one's God in the course of the ceremony, but to pause it for one's own personal prayer, whether he invites others to join or not, is inconsiderate. Reading scripture is going even further.
    Well, since you've completely been going off on every tangent BUT the question on the OP in this thread and seemingly didn't even know what the OP was based on this response, let me repost it to you (Even though I'm PRETTY sure you're not a Conservative, but decided to interject into this thread anyways so why not see your answer)...

    Would you have an issue with a Valedictorian reciting the "Call to Prayer" of the Muslim Faith as his Valedictorian speech? And if you would have an issue, why? Because it's unconstitutional, because it's offensive, because you just think religion shouldn't mix with schools, etc?

    The question isn't asking about thanking one's god or saying a personal prayer. It asked a specific question.

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    From Webster, Religion: a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith.

    There is no way you can say Athiests do not fit this definition.
    Atheism is lack of faith or belief. They do not fit that definition.

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Atheism is lack of faith or belief. They do not fit that definition.
    No they have a faith that there is not God. A belief that there is no God. They have a lack of MY belief. That doesn't mean they don't have a belief. Nice try.
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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Please. If that ever happened it would be national news and all we would hear about is how Islam is bad or whatever.
    "Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals."
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