View Poll Results: Would you have an issue with a valedictorian reading the Call to Prayer

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Thread: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Because nobody reads darwin or professes their non belief at the podium during a ceremony
    I can assure you, they do. Not to mention they blast the theories in school as well which is actually worse than what happened in this instance.
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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    While we can be battered by the religion of athiesm with no protest?
    Atheism is not a religion, and no one batters anyone with it.

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Guys, can we please not make this into a "RELIGION IS BAD - - - SCREW THE ATHIESTS" mud slinging fest arguing about whose more of an attention whore or what not. There's an actual topic and question here, why not answering that rather than multiple people trying to devirt things down their pet line of conversation?
    Fair enough. Sorry for my role in the derailment.

    While I hold a lot of conservative positions religion isn't one of them. I'm more agnostic than anything else, but I don't even take that all too seriously.

    In respect to the OP, I wouldn't be all that offended hearing an Islamic call to prayer at a commencement. Likewise, I wouldn't be offended by a Christian or Jewish prayer. I wouldn't be offended if some not-as-smart-as-he-thinks-he-is kid started going of on some demon/devil worship tirade, or hearing a wiccan incantation, or a diatribe on scientific materialisim.

    The bottom line is that sitting in on a commencement ceremony or convocation is going to suck ass no matter what I hear there, and it's likely going to be hot, and I'm going to wish I were elsewhere doing other things.

    It's bad enough that I have to sit through a B-list celebrity being witty and a 20-year-old kid explaining to me how HIS graduating class has an obligation to make the world a better place. Hearing a prayer isn't going to make it any worse.
    Last edited by soot; 06-07-13 at 01:31 PM.

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    I can assure you, they do.
    Where and when?

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    I can assure you, they do.
    Riiight... Please... enlighten me.

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Not to mention they blast the theories in school as well which is actually worse than what happened in this instance.
    If you are referring to teaching evolution over the creation story, that is an entirely different discussion and has already been discussed ad nauseum on these boards.

    Oh, and btw, that's ridiculous.

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    If you go by the posts in this forum, nobody feels the need to be heard more than the endlessly shrieking atheists.
    You left off the gay part.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post



    If you are referring to teaching evolution over the creation story, that is an entirely different discussion and has already been discussed ad nauseum on these boards.

    Oh, and btw, that's ridiculous.

    FYI the guy is a young Earther

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Fair enough. Sorry for my role in the derailment.

    While I hold a lot of conservative positions religion isn't one of them. I'm more agnostic than anything else, but I don't even take that all too seriously.

    In respect to the OP, I wouldn't be all that offended hearing an Islamic call to prayer at a commencement. Likewise, I wouldn't be offended by a Christian or Jewish prayer. I wouldn't be offended if some not-as-smart-as-he-thinks-he-is kid started going of on some demon/devil worship tirade, or hearing a wiccan incantation, or a diatribe on scientific materialisim.

    The bottom line is that sitting in on a commencement ceremony or convocation is going to suck ass no matter what you hear there, and it's likely going to be hot, and you're going to wish you were elsewhere doing other things.

    It's bad enough that I have to sit through a B-list celebrity being witty and a 20-year-old kid explaining to me how HIS graduating class has an obligation to make the world a better place. Hearing a prayer isn't going to make it any worse.
    I would be prayin' for a cooler full of hurt-your-hand-cold coors light.

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    If you go by the posts in this forum, nobody feels the need to be heard more than the endlessly shrieking atheists.
    At least they do it on a debate forum instead of at public events.

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    FYI the guy is a young Earther
    Tragic

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