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Thread: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Wouldn't a very simple solution be to just pray before or after the ceremony?

    Why do people, of any faith, feel the need to be heard when they pray or read scripture?
    If you go by the posts in this forum, nobody feels the need to be heard more than the endlessly shrieking atheists.

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Guys, can we please not make this into a "RELIGION IS BAD - - - SCREW THE ATHIESTS" mud slinging fest arguing about whose more of an attention whore or what not. There's an actual topic and question here, why not answering that rather than multiple people trying to devirt things down their pet line of conversation?

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Public expression of faith is an article of belief in many religions, and protected speech under the 1st Amendment.

    Given that the country is, depending on what survey you believe, 70% or more self-identifying as Christian, it stands to reason that there's going to be a certain amount of public expression.

    If a Jewish student wished to say a few words from the Torah, I would have no issue with that.

    Now in all honesty, I'm not a big fan of Islam just the now, for obvious reasons. But if the valedictorian was Islamic and wanted to say something briefly as an affirmation of his/her faith, I don't think that is outside the bounds of reason either.
    Obviously, it's legal. But in many cases, it is inconsiderate - such as this one. There are people of different faiths in attendance at public gatherings, and people who just don't want to hear it. Either way, the issue could very simply be avoided if people would just keep it to themselves, or in the church.

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Obviously, it's legal. But in many cases, it is inconsiderate - such as this one. There are people of different faiths in attendance at public gatherings, and people who just don't want to hear it. Either way, the issue could very simply be avoided if people would just keep it to themselves, or in the church.
    Then the other way around. I don't want to hear that there is no God and that Evolution is true. But if I say that people would cry foul, why is it any different here?
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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Obviously, it's legal. But in many cases, it is inconsiderate - such as this one. There are people of different faiths in attendance at public gatherings, and people who just don't want to hear it. Either way, the issue could very simply be avoided if people would just keep it to themselves, or in the church.

    I'll grant you some people are sometimes overly pushy about their religion, and that is something even I find annoying, even when it is my own co-religionists.

    I don't think a brief prayer or a "... and I want to thank God for what I've been able to accomplish" would be at all excessive, though.

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    We are tired of our rights being squelched.
    No one is squelching your rights...

    It's a matter of respect and consideration for others. If you are at a public event, just pray to yourself or read your bible silently. God can still hear you

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    Love it lol


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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    No one is squelching your rights...

    It's a matter of respect and consideration for others. If you are at a public event, just pray to yourself or read your bible silently. God can still hear you
    While we can be battered by the religion of athiesm with no protest?
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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Then the other way around. I don't want to hear that there is no God and that Evolution is true. But if I say that people would cry foul, why is it any different here?
    Because nobody reads darwin or professes their non belief at the podium during a ceremony

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    re: For Conservatives: Religion and Valedictorian speechs [W:83]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'll grant you some people are sometimes overly pushy about their religion, and that is something even I find annoying, even when it is my own co-religionists.

    I don't think a brief prayer or a "... and I want to thank God for what I've been able to accomplish" would be at all excessive, though.
    I don't either, I agree completely with this post.

    Edit: I disagree with the brief prayer part. Thanking God IMO is acceptable.

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